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You lost me on part
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, January 04 2013 @ 04:34 PM EST

You completely lost me in your use of the word trawl in the sentences you're trying to convey.

Trawl: to drag a net through water to catch fish. That's the basic concept.

If a patent pool trawls patent owners for 'essential patents' what are they essential for?
I'm really having a difficult time parsing your intende concept in that.
    [snip]... patent owners for 'essential patents' what are they essential for?
That's easy enough to understand. In the context of a standards body I'd interpret what you're trying to say as:
    A standards body is asking patent owners to declare their patents that impact the standard!
But I really have no idea what you mean by the use of a "patent pool trawling" context. You obviously don't mean the patent pool itself, that's an object. You could be refering to the entity who put together the pool. But I'm completely lost on parsing what you're trying to convey with that.

As a result, I don't quite grasp what you mean with:

However, patent pools that canvas for essential patents and quote the target technology are universally patent misusers.
Do you mean:
    Patent pools that deliberately seek out patents that end up covering the standard but were not disclosed to the standards committee?
Basically submarine patents that happen to end up being SEPs?

If that's what you mean, then I agree with that:

    When an entity is dishonest with the standards body and doesn't disclose the patent (so they don't have to make promises) or someone applies for a patent after the fact and the USPTO grants it - this is clear Patent Abuse!
Then ya, I absolutely agree. If that's not what you meant, I'm completely lost on what you tried to say.

But that just confirms my position:

    I don't disagree with you that there is patent Misuse. I also don't disagree that at least some SEP's have been misused and there are likely to be more.
I disagree with:
    SEP's = patent misuse!

RAS

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  • Trawling - Authored by: Ian Al on Saturday, January 05 2013 @ 06:58 AM EST
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