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BBC: Ubuntu operating system comes to Android (Most positive post I have seen).
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, January 02 2013 @ 09:07 PM EST

I watched the Youtube video, and it's quite impressive. Now I understand the reasoning behind a lot of decisions that have been made for Unity.

What is important to notice here is that Ubuntu is taking a different direction for Unity that what you will hear from most of the trolls. They aren't putting the same UI on phones and desktops. Instead, they are sharing certain UI elements between the two, but using them to create a different UI for phones than they are for desktops. Because of shared features though, you can more easily learn one once you are familiar with the other. This is drastically different from Microsoft where they simply stuck their phone UI on the desktop, and Apple where there's little attempt (yet) to share common concepts. However, be prepared for both to "innovate" Unity's ideas into their own next versions.

Native apps will use QML for the UI elements. This is the same toolkit that Unity 2D uses. This means that you could write the logic of your app in say C++, and put one QML UI on it for phones, and different QML UI on it for the desktop. That sounds like a practical way of bridging mobile and the desktop while still taking full advantage of each.

However, Android is already firmly entrenched in the phone market and it will be hard to get the attention of the handset vendors. On the other hand, if handset vendors are looking for a counter balance to Google, then an Ubuntu phone would be a possibility.

I would like to mention that I've been using Unity since the 12.04 release, and I'm really impressed with it as a desktop UI. It's simply, quick, reliable, and stays out of my way so that I can get work done. It's not a radical change like Gnome 3, but rather seems to have taken Gnome 2 and fixed the most serious UI design problems (like how to find an open application on multiple desktops). I wish them the best of luck with it.

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BBC miss a key point that smartphones now dock, this really rocks :-)
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 03 2013 @ 01:03 AM EST
A key point missing from the BBC article is that modern smartphones now dock,
this is an enormous change, it rocks big time! ie to use a big display, keyb,
mouse, network, printers, speakers etc.

In my workplace: As it happens the Android operating system supports numerous
Windows remote desktop clients (RDP clients), so installing Ubuntu may not be
immediately necessary, but probably more useful than Android and Windows when it
arrives.

My son bought a Motorola Atrix 2 for NZ$196 with his Christmas money... I must
now get a multimedia docking station, plus other bits:
http://www.motorola.com/us/consumers/MOTOROLA-ATRIX-2/73912,en_US,pd.html?select
edTab=tab-3&cgid=mobile-phones#tab

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BBC: Ubuntu operating system comes to Android (Most positive post I have seen).
Authored by: complex_number on Thursday, January 03 2013 @ 02:02 AM EST
Until Canonical can demonstrate that they will support properly the version of
their software thet I might put on my phone for the life of the phone then this
is IMHO a non starter.

Ubuntu with its 6 monthly release cycle and often with some key features borked
in the new release is just not ready for being used on the Phone.
Even their LTS is a bit of a joke when it comes to support (IMHO)

When I buy a phone (and yes you can still but a new Android that comes with
V2.3) I really can't be bothered to root it and load some other ROM and pray
that the whole thing won't be bricked. I just want it to work OOTB. I don't want
to download umpteen Gb of .deb's etc etc.

Canonical will have to do a lot of work to convince me that they have the
maturity to support this type of device properly over the long term.

I can't help thinking that this is just another attempt to create a revenue
stream. Mr Shuttleworth can't keep funding them indefinitely. At the moment I
can't see a viable business plan in anything they are doing. Well at least not
one that will start taking lots of customers off the likes of RH.


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Ubuntu & 'apt-get' are not the answer to Life, The Universe & Everything which
is of course, "42" or is it 1.618?

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Excellent news
Authored by: IMANAL_TOO on Thursday, January 03 2013 @ 10:12 AM EST
"The code will initially be released as a file which can be
installed on Samsung's Galaxy Nexus phone, replacing Android."

If done well, this may well turn out to have been the greatest
contribution of Canonical, ever. With Nokia's Linux efforts
near dead this may well be the well to go to (unless swills
from Redmond will foul it).

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IMANAL


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Sadly (for me): it's Ubuntu
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, January 03 2013 @ 03:22 PM EST

So I'll have to wait till the changes are applied back up the tree and I can dump my own compiled version onto the phone.

RAS

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