|
| Authored by: RichardB on Saturday, December 15 2012 @ 08:33 AM EST |
"The other possibility is that the 3 jurors lied. But lying like this is
something I can't see an explanation for."
You lock a bunch of people in a jury room, tell them they can't leave until
they've agreed a verdict, and you can't think of an explanation why come Friday
afternoon they pretend they have?
"I can tell by looking at you, you are exhausted," the judge said in
dismissing the jury. "You have given everything any reasonable country can
require of its citizens," he said. [abc news]
What more needs to be said?[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
|
|
|
| Authored by: MadTom1999 on Saturday, December 15 2012 @ 12:33 PM EST |
They may not have lied - they may have agreed under extreme pressure from the
other jurors. Once it (bullying?) was over they may have re-asserted their
opinions.[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
|
|
|
| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, December 15 2012 @ 08:01 PM EST |
Regardless of whether or not the judge askes the other jury members if he was
just ignoring there vote they could still simply tell the judge, it is a valid
point though that he might have thought the decision would be final by then and
it would be to late though...[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
|
|
|
| Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, December 16 2012 @ 12:21 AM EST |
"What if the Foreman didn't expect the judge to poll the other jury members
?"
The losing side almost always asks to poll the jury. Also the Foreman would have
to expect 11 other members not to speak up when hearing the verdict. Also AFAIK
the jury fills out a verdict form at most the Foreman reads it. I'm sure member
of the jury watched closely as it was filled out.
"The other possibility is that the 3 jurors lied. But lying like this is
something I can't see an explanation for. If they were ignoring the evidence,
why wouldn't they just stick to their biased verdict until a mistrial is
declared ?"
Because refusal to deliberate is cause for being removed from a jury. If that
happened the jury may well have come to the verdict the juror didn't want. This
way the juror got a mistrial. perhaps they believe that by doing this they could
actually get a verdict agreeing with their "side".
It is funny that the story involves gthree individuals and not just one. What
are the odds of the same rare thing happening to three members of the jury?
Mouse THe Lucky Dog[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
|
|
|
| Authored by: tknarr on Sunday, December 16 2012 @ 01:34 PM EST |
Or it could simply be a case of bullying. If the 9 men on the jury were
convinced of their verdict, they could've been angry at the women for not just
falling in line and trying to pressure and brow-beat them into submission. In a
jury room, there's no way to get away from that (short of going to a judge, and
I know from my experiences (teachers in school, managers at work) that it's
common for authority figures to blame the victim because it's easier. But once
you're out in the public courtroom where people not involved in the bullying can
see, it's a lot harder to continue bullying. So I can see those women, knowing
they'll be asked out in the courtroom where neither the judge nor the other
jurors can do a thing about their answers, saying "Not worth it, we'll mark what
they want on the form and say what we really believe out where they can't
retaliate.". [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
|
|
