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totally off topic: 0.99999999999....
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 14 2012 @ 10:59 AM EST
Nope, precision has nothing to do with it.

1=.99999999999999... precisely. How's this:

1/3 = .333...

3*(1/3) = .999... = 3/3 = 1

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totally off topic: 0.99999999999....
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, December 14 2012 @ 11:46 AM EST
I remember running to trouble with this on an old APL system. The comparator
was set to a low value and it was rounding off after 1 decimal. I've had
similar troubles with bc when set up wrong.

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assume there's a difference
Authored by: xtifr on Saturday, December 15 2012 @ 04:53 PM EST

If 1 > 0.999..., then the difference between the two must be a positive, real number, yes? Ok, let's assume that and see what happens.

First, look at 0.999.... If you add anything to it, a nine somewhere will carry, triggering a cascade of carries, and the result will either be 1.0 or greater, right? So, if there's a difference, it must be the smallest possible positive non-zero number, right? Otherwise, there would be a smaller number that could be added to 0.999.. that would also give a result equal to or greater than 1.0. So, we're dealing with the smallest possible number. Let's call it x. x = 1 - 0.999....

With me so far?

So what is x/2? That can't be a smaller number, because we've already established that x is the smallest possible number. In fact, we've defined it as the smallest possible number. So x/2 must be equal or larger than x. If it's larger, then x < x/2. Multiply both sides by two, and we get 2x < x. But we can't have a number smaller than x, so clearly x/2 is not larger than x. It must be equal. Ok, x = x/2. Multiply both sides by two: 2x = x. Subtract x from both sides: x = 0. But x is supposed to be larger than zero. Contradiction, unless you admit that x is not greater than zero. Which, in fact, is the case. 1 - 0.999... = 0.

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