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Sender Pays Rule
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, December 04 2012 @ 09:47 PM EST
Hi RAS, Here is what a liberal blog site thinks about where the study came from ...
here
Language problem in the link name. This may not survive the censors. Go to crooksandliars.com and search for "Mercatus". This article came out December 03, 2012 12:00 PM
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Bondfire

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Sender Pays Rule
Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Tuesday, December 04 2012 @ 10:34 PM EST
This is what winphone users will encounter.

Apps that are generating network traffic for nothing, that the user gets to pay for. Well, not for nothing, it will help the telcos make more money.

Yes, it happens with other phones too, but I believe they have a bit more control over the apps than what winphone users will be able to exert.

Time will tell but from what I have seen with metro, there is a lot of unneeded traffic.

Here's an article mentioning the built-in ads and that every modern/metro app is basically it's own browser with network capabilities.

Link

Imagine all of that traffic on your mobile data plan.

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You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.

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Sender Pays Rule
Authored by: mpellatt on Wednesday, December 05 2012 @ 06:19 AM EST
There's another consequence of the "sender pays" policy for
voice communications not mentioned in that paper - it's
historically been a significant source of fraud. Extending it
to IP traffic would, I contend, make click-through fraud seem
trivial in comparison.

I'm also reminded of the hugely complex systems for capturing
call routing in the international switches at Stag Lane and
Mondial House, and the associated billing systems, all driven
by this policy.

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Sender Pays Rule - but who is the sender?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 05 2012 @ 07:31 AM EST
The problem with "sender pays" (caller pays, in telephone
speak) that I haven't seen anybody mention is the question,
"Who is the sender?".

It's claimed that big companies like Google are getting a
free ride because of all the data they send out, but in fact
the person who benefits is the person doing the search.
It's the end user who "calls" Google (or any other web site)
for information. The end user is therefore the caller, and
should pay.

And, guess what! The end user already pays - he or she has
an Internet connection from an ISP and pays for the
privilege. That's the money that then filters out to fund
the rest of the Net.

An anyway, who is there out there who doesn't realise that
Google (or Facebook or whoever) already pays a staggering
amount for its connectivity?

The ITU is using smoke and mirrors to invent a problem that
doesn't exist so that its members can make a cash grab.

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it doesn't get any better
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, December 05 2012 @ 04:37 PM EST
see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ technology-20497719
so nokia want you to power their tech with your bandwidth.
That's cool. It used to be called 'big brother' but we've moved on since 1984.
" You can already see a hint of the importance of feedback data in the colour codes Nokia uses to show which streets are suffering from busy traffic. It does this by taking anonymised GPS and movement readings from users' phones and other Nokia-powered sat-nav systems to work out road conditions. "
I must admit I feel slightly conflicted here. When I use google's streetmap I sometimes find myself thinking 'what does it look like now'. Dilemma. It's very useful tech but it's also very intrusive.
At the end of the day privacy in modern society is becoming a bit of an oxymoron and if I could turn back the clock a couple of decades and take some key people into our world today would the equation "my access to the world" trump "the world's access to me"
Hey I'm feeling grumpy

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