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Corrections here
Authored by: kg on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 08:37 PM EST


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IANAL
Open Source Developer

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Or maybe, ...
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 09:05 PM EST
... just maybe, and I want to prepare you in advance for this
potentially stunning revelation, you might want to consider
the possibility that FOSSPatents is run by an IDIOT.

Just raising that as a possibility. The evidence seems to
suggest this more and more as time goes by.

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Florian is consistent
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 09:12 PM EST

Consistently wrong. You figure that even he would get it, sooner or later.

Wayne
http://madhatter.ca

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HTC-Apple Stipulation Filed with Del. Court Contradicts FOSSPatents on Terms of Agreement ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 09:25 PM EST
OK. What exactly does the difference mean?
1) Apple can raise a stink later?
or
2) Apple can't raise a stink?

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Comes docs here
Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 10:01 PM EST


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You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.

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News Picks commentary here
Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 10:03 PM EST


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You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.

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OT here
Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 10:04 PM EST


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You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.

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HTC-Apple Stipulation Filed with Del. Court Contradicts FOSSPatents on Terms of Agreement ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 10:05 PM EST

Quote: I have found, in a place where few people look for this kind of information, a heavily-redacted (more than 90% of the content is blacked out) public version of the Apple- HTC license agreement that was signed and...

Courts read the media too...

By using the media; all this is part of there (Apple) litigation strategy to blind-side the courts remember that's how Apple started this case, by getting the whole media to say Samsung slavishly copy (and that made Samsung upset). And it's the same again, FM play the same dirty card again and that's why HTC was upset when they came out and say all these analyse were totally all wrong, so you can now see that these are people who do not play clean, trust them at your own peril.

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Oddity regarding this round of ForProfitPatents commentary
Authored by: JonCB on Thursday, November 22 2012 @ 10:43 PM EST
When Florian makes a comment, I generally assume it's biased
towards Android being more screwed than is actually true. This
particular case of being plain wrong however seems, on the
face, to mean Android(i.e. HTC here) is more vulnerable to
lawsuit than Florian's comment suggests.

This is probably well explained by receiving an early version
of the document. That does leave us with the question of where
he got his version from.

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I'm shocked, shocked!!!
Authored by: Ian Al on Friday, November 23 2012 @ 02:48 AM EST
Finally, I thought PJ had made a Star Trek allusion... and it turns out to be
some local reality TV show!

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Regards
Ian Al
Software Patents: It's the disclosed functions in the patent, stupid!

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HTC-Apple Stipulation Filed with Del. Court Contradicts FOSSPatents on Terms of Agreement ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 23 2012 @ 03:30 AM EST
forian muller guy is <b> paid by Oracle, Apple and Microsoft. He has been

blogging ant-Google for years. He was so wrong with Oracle-Google case -
Oracle is paying Google their legal fee where muller guy claimed Oracle would
win billions.

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Ignore him then!
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, November 25 2012 @ 05:59 AM EST
Why give FOSSPatents the credit of acknowledge him by making
such an article? It is like watching children fight.

This article would have been better without any references to
FOSSPatents at all. Tell the news instead of telling that
somebody else got the news wrong.

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There is no need to speculate about Mueller's financial ties
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, November 26 2012 @ 12:49 AM EST
Several comments wonder about FOSS Patents'/Florian Mueller's financial ties and
suggest, rightly, that we should follow the money. It is a matter of public
record that he has been a paid "consultant" for Oracle and Microsoft.
His Oracle work, at least, was done through Morrison & Foerster, the law
firm that represents not only Oracle in its disasterous copyright suit against
Google, but also Apple in its patent litigation against Samsung. While his
corporate sponsors and Mueller have tried to suggest that somehow his payments
are not directly for writing his blog, the reality is that he is not and cannot
be objective because he is on these companies' payrolls and he is beholden to a
law firm that represents Apple. And the lack of objectivity is exactly what
explains why Mueller is so frequently wrong -- and why it undoubtedly does not
matter to him. His financial incentives are to cheerlead, plain and simple,
undoubtedly in the hopes that he can influence the media, public opinion and
courts. This is also why the word about FOSS Patents must be raised as often
and broadly as possible. It may eventually deter the media from using him as a
supposedly reputable source -- which he is not.

Confirmation of these points can be found in many sources, including:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19303290

http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/17/3250148/oracle-tells-court-patent-blogger-flor
ian-mueller-is-a-consultant

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57495640-93/oracle-names-bloggers-others-it-pai
d-to-comment-on-google-trial/

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