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Apples corporate culture typical of a former underdog
Authored by: IMANAL_TOO on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 01:43 PM EST
From I can see Apple's corporate culture is typical of a
former underdog. After decades of being outclassed and
ridiculed by other companies they have for the last few
years being able to produce some margins.

This has made the former street sweepers very self-assured
to the point that they think this position will last for a
long time. With this attitude from Apple I think
they will be halved in size within three years.

Apple - nouveau riche at its worst.


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corrections thread
Authored by: designerfx on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 01:47 PM EST
post corrections here

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  • 31 twice - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 10 2012 @ 04:00 AM EST
newspicks thread
Authored by: designerfx on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 01:48 PM EST
newspicks discussion here

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Off Topic Here
Authored by: SilverWave on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 01:50 PM EST
:-)

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RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions

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Comes Stuff Here
Authored by: SilverWave on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 01:51 PM EST
:-|

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RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions

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Well this is a refreshing change :-)
Authored by: SilverWave on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 01:52 PM EST
Ouch!

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RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions

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The UK Court Sanctions Apple, Hopes "Lack of Integrity" In Notice Incident Is Not "Typical" ~ pj
Authored by: esni on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 02:08 PM EST
So I Apple still dont compy in full, whats the next step the court could take?

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Corporate group think?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 02:13 PM EST
What were apple thinking of?

I get the impression of a corporate culture within which there is a substantial
gap between reality as externally perceived and what is preceived or at least
possible to express internally.

I have come across this sort of corporate group think before in large successful
US companies. There is an internal reality quite different from the external
reality and challenging it can be hard and career damaging. In the long run
external reality has a way of forcing itself into the fantasy but only when the
financial consequences are substantial.

If the internal reality is that apple inveneted everything to do with tablets
and smart phones and that every other device is a copy and when challenging this
even when ordered to do so by a court is not acceptable then Apples behaviour
becomes more understandable.

In this context why did the very well respected and successful british executive
John Browett leave Apple after just 6 months? He would not be the sor tof person
who would feel conformity outweighed reality.

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The UK Court Sanctions Apple, Hopes "Lack of Integrity" In Notice Incident Is Not "Typical" ~ pj
Authored by: kuroshima on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 02:19 PM EST
Why am I having the mental image of the judge taking a
(bitten) apple, sticking it in a spit, and slowly roasting
and (lam)basting it?

Seriously, I know that this is probably going to be pocket
change for Apple, but enough mosquito bites and even the
mighty feel light headed...

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The UK Court Sanctions Apple, Hopes "Lack of Integrity" In Notice Incident Is Not "Typical" ~ pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 02:42 PM EST
On the 6th December I would have so much fun with the following statement in front of Judge Koh:

Of course that did not preclude it from making statements elsewhere – even untrue ones which might amount to a libel or malicious falsehood.

Every time Apple makes a statement, I would ask them is this one of the falsehood's the UK High Court is refereeing to :-)

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Apple Fan Reaction
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 03:42 PM EST

I think the reactions of the rabid Apple fans, and such retractions they might
conceivably make will be interesting. Or the lack of reaction.

I use Apple. Heck, I have my own recording studio, including a legally
purchased copy of Logic, and some really expensive hardware. I use it
because in my opinion, there's nothing better for the price. Certainly I've
never seen any Windows or Linux software that can match it.

But they are sounding more and more like Microsoft, spoiled brats who are
unhappy that they can't get their way.

Wayne
http://madhatter.ca


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Makes me feel proud
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 03:56 PM EST

In general, I love the UK court system. Sometimes it gets it wrong, often it's
constrained by stupid laws imposed by the Government, but broadly speaking, it's
just superb.

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The UK Court Sanctions Apple, Hopes "Lack of Integrity" In Notice Incident Is Not "Typical" ~ pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 04:39 PM EST
Concerning the new statement on Apple UK's site, even after they've removed the
dynamic resizing javascript code, you still cannot see it even on a 1080p screen
with the browser maximized without scrolling down. They've stuck it at the very
bottom. You basically need a 1440p screen or something similar to see it.

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Shall be posted everywhere
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 05:32 PM EST
"The reality is that wherever Apple has sued on this registered design or
its counterpart, it has ultimately failed"

"But! but! but!"

No, let me point that out again, that by law, "The reality is that wherever
Apple has sued on this registered design or its counterpart, it has ultimately
failed"

The judges in the UK really get it, and a loss shouldn't be able to be spun into
a win.

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Karma: It Counts! n/t
Authored by: joef on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 05:33 PM EST
.

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Understandable English
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 06:01 PM EST
This is written in English that I can understand. Is this
normal for UK judges? Or have the judges decided that Apple
can't understand legalese and need to be spoken to in another
language, one that doesn't obfuscate and equivocate?

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The UK Court Sanctions Apple, Hopes "Lack of Integrity" In Notice Incident Is Not "Typical" ~ pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 06:24 PM EST
31. Finally I should mention the time for compliance. Mr Beloff, on instructions (presumably given with the authority of Apple) told us that "for technical reasons" Apple needed fourteen days to comply. I found that very disturbing: that it was beyond the technical abilities of Apple to make the minor changes required to own website in less time beggared belief.

Ha. In Apple's defense, it probably takes only 10 minutes to modify their website.

It probably takes 14 days to get authorization to modify their website.

Authorization from marketing, who are out schmoozing with clients, approval from legal, who are busy suing other companies, and permission from corporate hq, who are busy patting themselves on the back for the great job they're doing.

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Just for fun...
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 06:43 PM EST
I posted the following to the Apple.com Website Feedback:

"At the bottom of the page an image obscures some text which makes the text
that is visible difficult to comprehend. I believe this is deliberately in
violation of and defiance of the Court Order. It will be so suggested to the
Court."

I don't expect a reply from Apple.

Praxis

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  • Just for fun... - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 10:16 PM EST
    • Just for fun... - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 10 2012 @ 07:54 AM EST
    • Just for fun... - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 10 2012 @ 09:06 AM EST
atypical
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 06:44 PM EST
pj, why did you reword atypical (as written in the order) to
not typical.

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Contempt of court and UK/US Extradition treaties
Authored by: ThrPilgrim on Friday, November 09 2012 @ 07:01 PM EST
I have been thinking about how, if Apple is found in contempt of court, the
Judge could ensure that a senior US official of Apple could be forced to answer
for the contempt.

Extradition can be a long and tortuous process. The Judge could bypass all of
that by placing a European ban on all Apple products until a US Official turns
up in their court and answers the charge.

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Beware of him who would deny you access to information for in his heart he
considers himself your master.

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Oh dear, what a shame, too bad.
Authored by: Ian Al on Saturday, November 10 2012 @ 05:47 AM EST
Just because they lied to the buying public, the notice has to remain up until
15th December. Isn't that the best part of the Christmas sales period?

I bet that takes the wind out of their sales.









Yes, I know. Same pun, two days running. You are going to see it right up to
15th December!

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Regards
Ian Al
Software Patents: It's the disclosed functions in the patent, stupid!

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Creative interpretation
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 10 2012 @ 06:20 AM EST
Is there more tolerance in US courts for high-profile companies interpreting
court orders creatively or has Apple just got a bad case of
we're-a-big-US-company-mister-little-British-judge that has earned them this
attitude adjusting rogering?

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Dripping with sarcasm
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, November 10 2012 @ 10:23 AM EST
I hope that the lack of integrity involved in this incident is entirely atypical of Apple.
Huh. It is rather obvious that the "entirely atypical" wording is hyperbole. But it is also rather obvious that in the case of these court proceedings, Apple would be well-advised to match its further behavior to this hyperbole because disappointing the judge's "hope" is not going to be a winning move.

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Award Time
Authored by: albert on Saturday, November 10 2012 @ 05:49 PM EST
I nominate Sir Robin Jacob, along with Judge Posner and Judge Alsup, for the
Groklaw Judges Who 'Get' IP Award.

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  • Award Time - Authored by: jmc on Sunday, November 11 2012 @ 04:55 AM EST
    • Award Time - Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, November 11 2012 @ 08:37 AM EST
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