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FutureWeird: Windows 8 takes over Android in web traffic
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 05:06 AM EST
Website: windows8core

Not even going there. Don't want to give them advertising hits.

Wouldn't be suprised if MS included a patch to windows that punts out a lot of
"identifiably windows 8" data that they can sample. Either that or
Windows 8 just phones home that much.

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FutureWeird: Windows 8 takes over Android in web traffic
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 07:50 AM EST
That's not an even comparison. That's a desktop OS (most
popular in the world) against a pure mobile OS.

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Usual MS pr (vapour?) spin?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 08:43 AM EST
Surely to be expected on track record.

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*IF* true, it means that Windows8 has a few big corporate customers, and they update hourly!!
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 10:54 AM EST
But it's a big, fat *IF*...my FUD-ometer is pegging and the needle is now
bent!

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Oh, they have that problem again.
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 11:27 AM EST
I do wish that they wouldn't consider it a good thing when an application or OS
is so chatty that it degrades the network. ;)

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FutureWeird: Windows 8 takes over Android in web traffic
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 12:13 PM EST
This is too weird for words. What does this measure?

This would measure the browser ID string in HTTP requests to web sites that use Statcounter as a web counter (which web site owners use to measure traffic). Each web browser version provides a unique ID string, which often also contains some sort of OS ID information.

Statcounter will collect this data on behalf of their clients, and then re-sell the aggregated results to people who want marketing data. They also offer a limited amount of data for "free" for advertising and promotion reasons (it gets their name quoted in news stories). I don't see any mention of MS Windows 8 in their free stats, but perhaps they offer that information to their paying clients.

As to what it means, it just means (assuming the article is correct) that the web sites that use Statcounter are seeing more page hits from web browsers associated with MS Windows 8 than they are with Android browsers. That however doesn't tell you much on its own, because there is little correlation between mobile browser use and the number of smart phones or tablets in use. There is also little correlation between the relative market share of individual smart phones and the web traffic from each (because of different data plans at different price points, and because of network differences in different countries). About 90% of the web use that Statcounter sees is from desktop users. You also have to factor in that Statcounter only sees web sites that use Statcounter, and those tend to be heavily US focused ones which depend on advertising.

What this tells you is that people are installing and using MS Windows 8, which shouldn't be too surprising as Microsoft was handing out (time limited) copies of the beta and RC versions pretty freely and the price for an upgrade version is (for a limited time) a lot lower than has traditionally been the case. All the Windows fanboys will have a copy. Also, I just had a look at the web site of a major computer vendor here (in Canada), and their stock seems to have MS Windows 8 now, so that is what you would get if you bought a new computer today.

You also need to keep in mind that Statcounter won't be providing you with raw data. They will adjust their numbers to try to account for biases in their data due to how it's collected. The sorts of adjustments needed can be a matter of opinion, which is one of the reasons why different web counter companies will give different numbers.

In other words, it's not a very meaningful comparison. At most it tells you that MS Windows 8 has been released, but we already know that. If you're a web developer, you may want to think about testing your web pages with the newest version of IE, which probably means buying a copy of MS Windows 8 to run in a VM. On the other hand, it tells you nothing about how many people are using MS Windows 8 versus how many are using Android. You just can't correlate the two from web stats.

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FutureWeird: possibly this
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 12:35 PM EST

Maybe this is the answer, it isn't W8 users accessing the net, it is the ad
traffic.

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/11/08/1543206/microsofts-hidden-windows-8-feat
ure-ads

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FutureWeird: Windows 8 takes over Android in web traffic
Authored by: PJ on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 01:09 PM EST
Hahahahaha

Ne...vair! If that were true, the folks using it
must have bought their Windows8 on the black market,
or somebody made zillions of copies.

I file this under: impossible. Hence Windows FUD.

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Newspick?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 01:35 PM EST
There's no news there...

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FutureWeird: Windows 8 takes over Android in web traffic
Authored by: AntiFUD on Thursday, November 08 2012 @ 02:00 PM EST
Simple (my dear Watson - as Sherlock Holmes is wont to say) users of Windows 8
are permanently online whether they know it or not. This is a feature - not a
bug! - and is a requirement necessitated by a need to a) phone home on every
widget selection, b) a slew of updates [since it wasn't ready for public
consumption when released] and, c) the lack of offline help which is exacerbated
by the fact that users are unable to find the 'Start' button - hence users are
searching online (in vain) for online help to find the "Start" button
equivalent. Additionally all enquiries are rooted through Bing by default in
order to get its usage up to a nominal 1% of Google's search usage, also for tax
reasons all searches for help are routed through both Nevada and Ireland, and
are drm restricted and censored via the Vatican, whose server is down until the
collection plate is passed round again (expected sometime next week).

HTH

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IANAL - Free to Fight FUD - "to this very day"

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