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reselling
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, October 29 2012 @ 05:08 PM EDT
Due to an ambiguity in copyright law, 25+ centuries of custom on how the retail
market works (through most of the globe) will be wiped out.

What a great way to demonstrate to your kids that the world is split into US and
THEM. Copyright allows the rights holders to monitor, meddle, direct, and
interfere in every aspect of your life. You may do nothing without their
permission. Remember, this goes beyond electronic goods that have copyrighted
firmware. Everything you purchase can be converted into this scheme just by
adding a tiny logo (Omega v Costco). Even a copyrighted logo on your shirt puts
you under the yoke. And no, you do not have permission of the rights holder to
remove that logo.

Who would have thought that copyright would be the means by which the culture of
Master and Serf would be brought into the 21st century?

--

Bondfire "i don't care if we have to imprison 90% of the animals to
preserve my rights"

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  • Nothing new - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 30 2012 @ 10:42 AM EDT
reselling
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, October 29 2012 @ 05:35 PM EDT
A rulling that first sale doctrine doesn't apply on importation to the US would
open the US up to so much exploitation. Whenever anyone wrote a book, they would
only want to publish it outside the US. Then whenever anyone imported the book
and tried to resell it, lend it, ect, the company would get payed twice. Why
would any publisher continue to exist inside the US?

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resell me some popcorn
Authored by: soronlin on Tuesday, October 30 2012 @ 10:10 AM EDT
I'm watching this with a comfy chair and popcorn.

Sooner or later the US is going to sue itself out of the global marketplace.

Its a huge market, and it will be a shame to see it go, but China is coming
along, and it is four times the size. There's the former USSR too; fewer people
at the moment but that is likely to change as technology penetrates further. And
then there is Africa. Plenty of people to sell to without bothering with the old
USA.

We'd have to throw out Coke Cola and Ford of course, but no great loss there --
Beef burgers and soft drinks would be more ecological and economically sound if
they were local anyway, and the Germans make cars just as well.

And just think -- if you never sell stuff in the USA or buy stuff from it, then
US trade rules don't apply to you.

Right now, this is a ridiculous idea, but if the US keeps making stupid rulings
that prejudice other countries, it wont be ridiculous forever.

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The correct answer is simple.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 30 2012 @ 10:47 AM EDT
There is no copyright violation. The copies sold by the students were
authorized copies and the publisher got their profit when they were purchased.
The students did NOT MAKE A COPY. Simple.

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Can't resell Linux in USA
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 30 2012 @ 12:19 PM EDT

Under the pro interpretation you would not be able to buy anything with Linux installed on it unless you have permission from each copyright holder. This would also apply to any software or content that is not exclusively owned by the company selling that product. So any device or content brought into the USA would potentially infringe the copyright law. The apparent exception is if parts and content are owned by the US such as iOS and Windows then that would be export followed by reimport which was allowed.

So consumers would have to ask for valid proof from the company especially if these are not the manufacturers (i.e., 'big-box' and 'Ma and Pa' stores) can actually resell that item to you for every single component (hardware) and piece of content (software, images etc.).

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no reselling? no christmas!
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 30 2012 @ 01:56 PM EDT
AFAICT, the same arguments against reselling apply to just giving things away
too. Are we going to outlaw Christmas? Who will line up to be first to sue
that
mass offender, Saint Nick?

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Just think one thing "landfills".
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 31 2012 @ 11:13 AM EDT
Welcome to the world garbage dump, unless there is a requirement that all items
falling under this change be returned to the copyright owner for final
disposition. :)

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