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Have Apple complied with the court order to post an apology on their website? | 258 comments | Create New Account
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Have Apple complied with the court order to post an apology on their website?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 26 2012 @ 06:46 AM EDT
1) Go to Apple.com
2) Switch Region to UK (bottom right)
3) Go to Apple.com and there is a link next to the region switcher next to the
cookie policy.

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I think the word here is 'Contempt' - n/t
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 26 2012 @ 07:17 AM EDT
n/t

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Streisand's banner waving over Cupertino
Authored by: knarf on Friday, October 26 2012 @ 07:33 AM EDT
Methinks Apple is willingly raising a Barbra Streisand banner over Cupertino by acting this way. If they think they can 'prove their case' by quoting the $BILLION_DOLLAR 'jury verdict' which is not likely to survive and the very German ruling which was picked apart by one of the judges in the UK they are SOL.

For those who missed it, Judge Robin Jacob did not mince words (pp.55-63) when he talked about the German gaffe:

55. Finally I should say something about the 24th July decision of the Oberlandesgericht which held that the 7.7 infringed and granted a pan-EU injunction against SEC from selling it.

56. Firstly I cannot understand on what basis the Court thought it had jurisdiction to grant interim relief. I do not think it did for several reasons.

57. Firstly it is common ground that no German court was "first seized" of the claim for a declaration of non-infringement. Indeed given that Apple withdrew its claim for infringement in Germany, no German court appears even now to be seized of a claim for infringement. It is true that Samsung applied for declarations of non-infringement on the same day, 8th September 2011 in Spain, the Netherlands and England and Wales and there could be (but I think rather overtaken by events given that the trial and appeal are over here) a dispute about which case started first in point of time. After all there is now a Community-wide decision on the point, now affirmed on appeal. One would think that ought to put an end to all other litigation about it.

58. Secondly I cannot see any basis for an interim injunction. The UK court had already granted a final declaration. Moreover it was sitting not just as a UK court but as a Community Court. Interim injunctions are what you grant in urgent cases where there is not enough time to have a full trial on the merits. That was not this case. Lord Grabiner told us that the Oberlandesgericht had jurisdiction pursuant to Art. 31 of the Brussels Regulation EC/44/2001. But that relates to "provisional, including protective measures." There was no room for "provisional" measures once Judge Birss, sitting as a Community Court had granted a final declaration of non-infringement.

59. Further Judge Birss was not sitting as a purely national court. He was sitting as a Community design court, see Arts. 80 and 81 of the Designs Regulation 44/2001. So his declaration of non-infringement was binding throughout the Community. It was not for a national court - particularly one not first seized - to interfere with this Community wide jurisdiction and declaration.

60. The Oberlandesgericht apparently also thought it had jurisdiction because the party before it was SEC whereas the party before the English court was SEC's UK subsidiary. With great respect that is quite unrealistic commercially - especially as I shall recount below, Apple at least took the view that SEC would be liable for the subsidiary's actions. They were all one "undertaking". I use the word of EU law for this sort of situation.

61. Finally I regret to say that I find the Oberlandesgericht's reasoning on the merits sparse in the extreme. Firstly, for the reasons I have given, I think it was wrong to say that the General Court decision in Grupo Promer/Pepsico was "outdated" when the decision on appeal affirmed the General Court. Secondly the Court wrongly assumed that the trade mark point was critical to Judge Birss's decision when it was not. And for the reasons I have given I think it was wrong in law to say that the positioning of a trade mark was irrelevant where it interfered with one of the key features of the design (simplicity and plainness).

62. What the Oberlandesgericht did not do was to consider Judge Birss's decision in detail. It gave only meagre reasons for saying "The Court cannot concur with the interpretation of the High Court". I regret that. In Grimme v Scott [2010] EWCA Civ 1110, this Court said:

63. Broadly we think the principle in our courts - and indeed that in the courts of other member states - should be to try to follow the reasoning of an important decision in another country. Only if the court of one state is convinced that the reasoning of a court in another member state is erroneous should it depart from a point that has been authoritatively decided there. Increasingly that has become the practice in a number of countries, particularly in the important patent countries of France, Germany, Holland and England and Wales. Nowadays we refer to each other's decisions with a frequency which would have been hardly imaginable even twenty years ago. And we do try to be consistent where possible.

64. The Judges of the patent courts of the various countries of Europe have thereby been able to create some degree of uniformity even though the European Commission and the politicians continue to struggle on the long, long road which one day will give Europe a common patent court.

65. That principle was not followed by the Oberlandesgericht. If courts around Europe simply say they do not agree with each other and give inconsistent decisions, Europe will be the poorer.

So what does Apple have to go by? A crooked jury verdict, a mistaken German verdict. No mention of all the other cases they lost, over the same patents. No mention of those very patents being invalidated as we speak. No mention of the ridicule and scorn poured over Apple because of their antics - well, they wouldn't mention that, now would they?

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et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est." ]

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Apple Posts Non-Apology to Samsung
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 26 2012 @ 11:04 AM EDT
Here is slashdot's take on it.

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I don't see how this note remotely complies with the judge's order.
Authored by: Charles888 on Friday, October 26 2012 @ 11:42 AM EDT
I don't see how this note remotely complies with the judge's
order.

He did not order them to post an announcement and
justification, and to toot their own horn. He ordered them to
post a an acknowledgement of their own wrongdoing.

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