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A fun assumption blown out of the water :( | 249 comments | Create New Account
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Egads - Judge Koh must be suffering from Writer's Cramp
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 11:55 AM EDT

And the amount of documents she's got to read... I feel sorry for her.

Wayne
http://madhatter.ca

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Apple v Samsung - The Post-Trial Battles ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 11:55 AM EDT
Arg.... cant create an account, I guess I love being anonymous.

"Sorry, creation of new accounts has been temporarily
disabled"

WTF Batman? Robin is closing the justice league fanclub from
new fans. :P

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Apple v Samsung - The Post-Trial Battles ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 12:36 PM EDT
Was there ever an attempt to subpoena Jonny Ives for his design 'inspiration' notebooks - quoted on various sites under the headings like 'Steve Jobs stole my ideas'?
Might help to clear up a few points about what does and doesn't count, in Apple's designers' view, as copying/prior art compared to 'inspiration' - "where an idea comes from".
"He [Jobs] will go through a process of looking at my ideas and say, 'That's no good. That's not very good. I like that one,'" Ive told Isaacson. "And later I will be sitting in the audience and he will be talking about it as if it was his idea. I pay maniacal attention to where an idea comes from, and I even keep notebooks filled with my ideas. So it hurts when he takes credit for one of my designs."

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Corrections here
Authored by: SilverWave on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 12:41 PM EDT
:-)

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RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions

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Off Topic Here
Authored by: SilverWave on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 12:42 PM EDT
;-)

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RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions

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News Picks Here
Authored by: SilverWave on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 12:43 PM EDT
:-/

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1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions

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Comes Stuff Here
Authored by: SilverWave on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 12:44 PM EDT
:-|

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1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions

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Samsung knew of the bankruptcy before the verdict?
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 12:49 PM EDT
I didn't see any evidence that Samsung had any knowledge of the bankruptcy
before the verdict. Can someone point it out to me?


Mouse the Lucky Dog

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A fun assumption blown out of the water :(
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 04:32 PM EDT
In an earlier article, PJ said:
Were you wondering how Samsung found out about the lawsuit that [jury foreman] Hogan failed to mention in voir dire, the litigation between Seagate and Hogan that Samsung dug up? Apple was, as I'll show you. You wouldn't believe it if it was in a movie script. The lawyer who sued Mr. Hogan on behalf of Seagate back in 1993 is now married to a partner at Quinn Emanuel, the lawyers for Samsung. What are the odds?
Unfortunately, this is apparently one of those examples of the difference between correlation and causality. We were wondering how Seagate's lawyer recognized Hogan after all that time. As far as I know, he didn't.

A declaration by Michael T. Zeller (PDF) explains how Samsung found out about the lawsuit. It says that Samsung didn't know about it until it read about it in the records of Hogan's bankruptcy. It apparently found out about the bankruptcy by running a LexisNexis report on him. Samsung also found out who represented Seagate by reading the bankruptcy records. That indicates that the lawyer (the partner's spouse) didn't say anything to Samsung's lawyers.

I don't know why Samsung mentioned the relationship between Seagate's lawyer and Samsung's legal team. Perhaps someone didn't know any better and made the same assumption that many of us did?

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How bad is it if Hogan lied about the fraud complaint?
Authored by: stegu on Sunday, October 21 2012 @ 06:21 AM EDT
> You'd think it [Hogan's fraud complaint against Seagate]
> would be found somewhere, but so far I've been unable to
> confirm it.

If Hogan lied about his counter-claim, is that in
itself a reason for mistrial? Lying about a case
he was involved in seems like a pretty bad thing
to do in voir dire, and it's not something he or
Apple can easily wriggle out of by saying that it
was an "honest mistake".
How bad is it to "misspeak" about facts like these?

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Apple v Samsung - The Post-Trial Battles Intensify ~pj Updated - How Both Sides View Foreman's Voir Dire
Authored by: crazyeconomist on Sunday, October 21 2012 @ 02:06 PM EDT
I think Apple is dead wrong in all this but in the interest
of justice, in order to establish when Samsung could have
known about the bankruptcy filings they really should get
server logs(or whatever paper records) of whowhen if ever
there was a request to see the Hogan's bankruptcy records in
the past two years... I can't imagine there would be
interest in those except by the lawyers in this particular
lawsuit.


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  • No point. - Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, October 21 2012 @ 02:18 PM EDT
Seal/unseal
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, October 22 2012 @ 02:05 AM EDT
This whole deal with sealing and unsealing and appealing is getting rather
messy. I wonder how long will it take before this is sorted out. How does anyone
keep track of what is sealed or not :p?

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Apple v Samsung - The Post-Trial Battles Intensify ~pj Updated - How Both Sides View Foreman's Voir Dire
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 24 2012 @ 06:48 PM EDT
Sorry, Apple, Jury/Juror Misconduct is grounds for vacating their decision on
the spot.

It's the solid basis for a Mistrial and an Appelate Court WILL Vacate (and
<i><b>maybe</b></i> Remand...) in most cases if the
Judge presiding over the case doesn't Vacate the decision on the spot like
they're supposed to.

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