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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 02:43 PM EDT |
Filed January 2000[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 02:52 PM EDT |
> If I understand this the patent is sounds exactly like quicksilver.
Doesn't matter, Apple has more lawyers ...[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: darthaggie on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 02:52 PM EDT |
| According to the linked discussion:
Prior art must be submitted to the
USPTO before December
28, 2012.
They also provide a link to a Groklaw
article directio
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 03:15 PM EDT |
I have a terrible memory and no idea on how to check
this...but...
1. When did help files first start searching the internet and
the local directory? (I'm thinking of M$ and Matlab.)
2. Google Desktop was released in 2004 - Wikipedia.
3. Does "ls" qualify if you search a local machine and a
network share simultaneously?
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 04:00 PM EDT |
I also recall some sort of funny file browser for windows. This was in the
windows 3.1 days. It would index everything. I think it must have had file
type plugins to build indexes of each type.
I think it might be this thing...
http://www.sharewarejunkies.com/00zwd6/magellan.htm
This version mentions some sort of ftp part, too.
I can only barely remember using this thing.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 06:20 PM EDT |
It seems incredibly broad and vague to me. I don't see how
there could not be prior art. I am not really sure what is
being "invented" here except an excuse for a future lawsuit.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 08:59 PM EDT |
A couple pieces of software from the 80's come to mind.
A free form database called "Ask Sam" and a DOS utility called
sidekick.
They both can retrieve data from non structured elements using different
heuristics (actually methods depending on the data searched) also office
search built into MS Office 97 can search across many data types in
different document formats.
Anyways these are actual examples, not sure if they're any use in an
abstract patient defense.
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| Authored by: celtic_hackr on Friday, October 19 2012 @ 12:57 AM EDT |
Apple's invention sounds very much like a shell script with a find or/and grep
command on a computer with an NFS mounted drive to a remote computer.
Or you could just do it on a command line with find + grep or just grep or find
even.
Or use an RSS feed.
Srsly? This is what is wrong with the Patent office giving patents to software.
They are utterly clueless about computers.
Grep - March 3, 1973
shell scripting - ? I'll pick one Bourne 1977
NFS - Sun Microsystems 1984
Find - I don't know, but we can substitute locate for find locate dates to
1983.
"locate" uses a database built by typically cron jobs
Or better yet:
findutils - 1994.
http://www.gnu.org/software/findutils/manual/html_mono/find.html#Top
Unfortunately it's only using two heuristics. A real time search and scheduled
job to build a database to quickly search. But the patent doesn't delineate how
many heuristics you need. Two is a multiple number of heuristics.
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| Authored by: celtic_hackr on Friday, October 19 2012 @ 01:33 AM EDT |
Zilberstein, S. (1993) Operational Rationality through Compilation of Anytime
Algorithms., PhD Thesis, UC Berkeley
Basically Anytime Algorithms are algorithms that improve over time.
Zilberstein's paper dealt with more complex systems which utilized many such
algorithms working together.
It's not a complete prior art, but it is relevant to the claimed invention. It
demonstrates the idea of using multiple heuristics almost 20 years ago. Adding
searching local and internet files using a well known approach isn't novel. I
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| Authored by: SeismoGuy on Friday, October 19 2012 @ 01:48 PM EDT |
Just found a patent that could be used as prior art for
20120166477, but the owner of that patent is (I believe)a
patent troll (but was once a respectable hw/sw company). Is
it ok to post it here?[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: SeismoGuy on Friday, October 19 2012 @ 04:00 PM EDT |
Here is an interesting paragraph related to Prospero and
Gopher found in
this
paper:
Gopher [7] allows
users to browse menus con-
gured by Gopher service providers. By
select-
ing menu items, users are able to run applica-
tions, search
local databases, select and display
files and sub-menus, and connect to
other ser-
vices available on the Internet. A Gopher menu
can be
represented as a Prospero directory. The
individual items in the menu
correspond to links
in the directory. Submenus are links to
other
directories. Links to files have an associated
access-method
attribute that provides the in-
formation needed to retrieve the fi le.
Attributes
associated with links also specify how the data
in a file
should be presented, for example how
to display images or play back an audio
record-
ing. Links to Internet services reachable by tel-
net have an
access-method attribute of type
telnet; this access-method contains the
in-
formation needed to telnet to the service.
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