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| Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 10:40 PM EDT |
Default desktop in indeed Unity. I hate that too. However, nothing is forced on
you. Installing another desktop environment is easy. Personally is XFCE, which
you get by installing the Xubuntu desktop.
Nice thing about 12.10 is that the Xubuntu desktop now defaults to XFCE 4.10,
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| Authored by: kjs on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 11:44 PM EDT |
No, it doesn't or I wouldn't use it. No cellphone GUI on my work desktop.
Go to xubuntu or lubuntu and download their version and you will never see the
Unity/KDE4/Gnome3 bloat.
Updated to Xubuntu 12.04 a few days ago as I always wait at least 4 months to
have them all the big bugs ironed out before my machine gets an upgrade and I am
not sure that I will upgrade before the next LTS. May change my mind if they go
to longer release cycles...
>kjs
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not f'd, you won't find me on farcebook[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: SilverWave on Friday, October 19 2012 @ 03:07 AM EDT |
Ubuntu xubuntu-desktop 12.04 to Ubuntu 12.10 Sweet :-)
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RMS: The 4 Freedoms
0 run the program for any purpose
1 study the source code and change it
2 make copies and distribute them
3 publish modified versions
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| Authored by: RPN on Friday, October 19 2012 @ 09:04 AM EDT |
Unity has improved pretty significantly over the versions. 12.04 is a very
distinct improvement on the originalthough it still has some flaws in my view,
particularly for non skilled users on a desktop who won't easily find the ways
round them, where they exist. Easy scaling of the bar to suit large screens is
one and even better allow it to be moved too. Another is Global Menu's which are
just a total pain in the behind on a larger desktop screen. Oh and I don't like
the workspace switcher. The rest is more trivial and after some use I frankly
don't mind it any more or see it as necessarily worse than what went before, if
not yet clearly better either. It's more the execution than the change itself in
principle that really needs work. But I appreciate that's a personal view and
others will beg to differ.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 19 2012 @ 03:13 PM EDT |
> but stopped due to Unity.
Just install 'ClassicMenu Indicator' if you want a normal program menu.
http://www.florian-diesch.de/software/classicmenu-indicator/
> what alternatives does it offer?
LXDE, Xfce, KDE, Fluxbox, Enlightenment. You could use Gnome3 or the remix of
Gnome2.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/214930/6_alternative_ubuntu_desktops_worth_trying
.html
It doesn't _force_ anything on you.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 06:43 AM EDT |
(Disclaimer - I don't use Ubuntu much. Almost all my linux
systems have been regular Debian)
I've always understood linux distros to be a sort of kit or
toolbox where you can pick whatever components you want. At
least in Debian, the most basic install gives you a strictly
command-line box, after which is it is extremely simple to
set it up as a server or a desktop with Gnome, KDE, XFCE,
etc. I've never thought of Debian as being a "Gnome-based"
distro, although Gnome is what you get if you simply pick
what is labeled "desktop" without reading any further. But
it doesn't seem there is anything else about Debian that
assumes Gnome will be used.
With Ubuntu, it always seemed to me that it wasn't much more
than Debian with all the Gnome boxes pre-checked, and with
pains taken to avoid having users actually learn anything
about linux/unix computing. But it was always still very
easy to install a different desktop environment using apt.
So, for anyone who doesn't like Unity (which I confess I
have never seen), it isn't a big deal to install KDE, Gnome,
XFCE, or whatever you want.
Likewise, I never saw what the big deal was about a couple
of years ago when Ubuntu was going to remove the Gimp from
its default install. I never have really cared what was a
default install, as long as what I want is still in the
repository.
Now - a couple of months ago, there was something here on
Groklaw that indicated that Ubuntu accounted for something
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, October 20 2012 @ 11:11 AM EDT |
My test - is if Ubuntu's LibreOffice will easily work with Thunderbird contacts
as datasource... OR, easily work with other email clients etc to use their data
as datasources via the LibreOffice Wizard.
In all past releases. Ubuntu, has not listened to years of bug reports about
this KEY workplace functionality feature that on Ubuntu, has not worked at all
(like it used to work for OpenOffice many years ago on other distros). If they
want to target business, they gotta stop focusing on GUI changes and focus on
KEY apps that business needs.
1 - a full drop in replacement migration from Quickbooks. Including Payroll
module with all jurisdictions tax tables kept up to date (yep, will pay money
for subscription so that company can pay staff to make sure those tax tables,
tax forms, etc are up to date)!
2 - LibreOffice fully worked as it should, and does with other installs, such as
in WINDOWS.
3 - Other key business focused apps (supported, even for a fee) but are
OpenSource where GPL license is preferred).
Re: Cloud Services hype? Who is doing it will all their business related data
assets?
I am sorry, but due to Privacy Liability issues, where state by state you have
"data control" laws taking effect, it is almost impossible to comply
with those laws via most, if not all, cloud based business apps (as they lack
the encryption required by law for mobile data use). Many Cloud services depend
on spying (if they use a face-book like model) and selling what they know of you
to other marketing entities. However this does not work for a business where
the law says you have to do x,y,z to protect consumer data from theft, or from
losing backups (at a cost of $240 per customer to notify and buy 1 year of ID
protection... that, must happen in first 5 days. So, whose admin rights
employees, at whose Cloud service do you trust and depend on, to be "on
your side - where they protect you at a level required by the most strict state
law that you will have to comply with"...? Where the companies admins can
be depended on to not peek at, or take data. Hmmm, when, you don't hire their
staff at your usual filtering and interviewing standards, then, can you trust
that someone else is hiring the right people to take care of your business's
bread and butter assets?
PS - FYI - some Cloud service apps for business uses, might make use of a
click-thru EULA-like agreement, that you have to look around and see if it has a
clause that you agree to hold the cloud service provider "harmless"
for just about anything that can happen to your data (they will not indemnify
you, that is what that also means). So, read the fine print on any click thru,
and try to get a copy before hand as level one of the evaluation process. Then,
talk to your insurance folks to see if you are covered for data loss from your
on-site storage, and if using a cloud service, from their data storage
location... as, if the data is lost, could cost a lot of real money, that if you
don't have insurance to cover, comes out of earnings (and for some companies,
could bankrupt the company just to comply with the requirments that some states
might require to be done in first 5 days of the data being "lost".
Hint, due to large number of client, if a cloud hosting service gets hammered,
they might not be able to buy enough insurance to cover the loss, so - in those
cases, might be hanging their hats on click thru EULA hold harmless clauses.
TALK TO YOUR LAWYER BEFORE YOU GO TO ANY CLOUD BASED SERVICE (and, maybe, get a
second opinion on that advise).
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