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Why litigating and not selling? Because they sued RedHat first? | 221 comments | Create New Account
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Why litigating and not selling? Because they sued RedHat first?
Authored by: Tkilgore on Wednesday, October 17 2012 @ 11:06 PM EDT
Not so easy for the original plaintiff to back away. RedHat did not start the
suing. These are RedHat's counterclaims.

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hmm - So if you are not using the code via GPL2... are you illegally copying it?
Authored by: tiger99 on Thursday, October 18 2012 @ 12:35 PM EDT
That is why the GPL is so effective. If it is valid, you can only use the software on the stated terms, and if it is invalid, copyright law says thay you can't use it at all.

The only possible hope for a successful challenge is to show that the part of the GPL which allows you to use the code is valid, while the part that requires you to comply with the terms of use is not.

IANAL, but instinct tells me that there is very little chance of that, otherwise we would have seen it in the SCOundrel's cases and others. It is rather obvious that the person writing a license, to give permission where none otherwise exists, has the upper hand because they own the code and can license it on any terms that they wish, except that in many countries certain forms of discrimination against individuals would be illegal, i.e. you could not disallow its use by ethnic minorities, disabled, etc. But there are generally no laws that say what you can and can't allow as regards distribution, copying and modification, as long as they apply to everyone, as they do in the case of GPL. You could almost certainly get away with discriminating against corporations as opposed to individuals, for instance, and some licenses do not allow business use, but the GPL allows no such restriction.

I know that the term seems to be applied more commonly to patent licenses, but the term FRAND applies rather nicely to the GPL. It is free (although you can charge for the cost of distribution, support etc), reasonable (ask the majority of developers who prefer it, and countless end users) and non discriminatory, as it applies equally to the likes of the mighty IBM (who apparently have no problem living with it) and the underprivileged kids with OLPC/XO machines in the middle of Africa.

So if it is non-discriminatory I can't imagine what weird kind of law could be applied to force seperation of its several parts, such that some apply and others do not. Unless, of course, they challenge the copyright owner's right to place some restrictions on the use of the code. But how? It is his or hers to do with as they wish, or not.

I think the whole thing is merely legal posturing from people who have done the wrong thing and just can't admit it. They would prefer an expensive trial, so they can blame the judge, not themselves, maybe?

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