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Since everything can be described by mathematics, it really doesn't matter.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 17 2012 @ 12:35 PM EDT

I have some questions for you. Is logic useful? Why would putting operations of logic in a computer make them patentable?

Computers are good at performing operations that the human brain is ill equipped in performing. Tasks that involve examination of many details such as the sorting a list of emails by one of many attributes.

My position is that the ability for computer logic to cause a machine to organize information in a way that assists its user is just as bit an advancement in technology as the invention of a machine that picks cotton seeds of of cotton fiber.

I support that position by pointing out that before computer based information system, such information was held in filing cabinets that required a person to file information according to some preselected index. Those tasks have since become redundant because of the productivity that computer based systems has introduced.

That productive effort is a result of computer software that has modified machine characteristics in a useful way. I believe there are other such advancements to be enjoyed that are worthy of being patented since such advancements can present a novel way for a computer to manipulate and present information that people can find beneficial. The innovative efforts put into software development should be protected from others who would simply copy an idea.

That being said, some measure of criteria needs to be used to gauge how software modifies machine properties so that algorithms don't qualify for patents. What I believe is interesting to patent needs to manifest itself as discernible machine characteristics with real world utility, ei characteristics which expand the machines capacity to provide usefulness to the user which are otherwise beyond the capacity of the machine. Obviously this idea needs baking; what enhancements are to be classified as useful, how to measure usefulness, how do define the machine...

In my opinion, the utility of a stored program computer is analogous to the utility of a printing press. It does not depend on the contents. There is a mathematical basis to the notion that an algorithm is a form of logic. Also there is a technological basis to the notion that the hardware is independent from the contents. Perhaps this address your question?

Agreed. The components of the printing press perform their job in accordance to the mathematical model they are based on in a unison that results in the production of newspapers or magazines. Here are my considerations about this issue.

The distinction between software and contents must be made. It's actually the structure of content that is mated with the software. Obviously its not useful to try and manipulate gif structured images with software designed for jpg data.

We may agree that a video codec is an example of a stored program and could qualify for one or more patents? It is an example of a software bundle. Does enhance the machine and solve an information problem related to video?

Should the structure of a file processed by the video codec constitute a component of that patent? Is it not something organizational? Does it provide a real world benefit? Does the design of the structure qualify as logic that enhances the characteristics of the computer in a useful way to the user? If another video codec was developed that utilized the same structure, are the characteristics of the structure a determining factor in the novelty of the new codec?

I'm inclined to say that content structure may be apart of a software patent but not a patent in itself, regardless of its novel design because content structure is something completely theoretical; it hasn't been manifested into the world beyond that of pure mathematics. The users experience is only enhanced by content structure once that structure is filled with data. And what is interesting about the structure is not of itself, but the user content. In that way, the structure is more useful as an aspect of the machine than as an aspect of the user experience.

Should a novel new filesystem be patentable? It's an example of a data structure and certain aspects of the filesystem do become part of the user experience. Or is it the software driver that should be considered as novel?

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