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"As Such" in NZ
Authored by: stegu on Friday, October 12 2012 @ 03:24 AM EDT

The economic powers desiring that effect are probably just as strong in the NZ as everywhere else in the world. A law that lends itself to misinterpretation will likely be misinterpreted when so many well paid and influential people are trying so hard to misunderstand.

You say that the NZ bill is not worded in exactly the same way as the UK. The European text is:

  • 2. The following in particular shall not be regarded as inventions within the meaning of paragraph 1:
    ... (c) schemes, rules and methods for performing mental acts, playing games or doing business, and programs for computers;
  • 3. Paragraph 2 shall exclude the patentability of the subject-matter or activities referred to therein only to the extent to which a European patent application or European patent relates to such subject-matter or activities as such.

( Full EPC text)

How is the NZ language any different? To me, this looks like exactly the same backdoor, and I find it highly unlikely that it will be interpreted any differently.

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  • "As Such" in NZ - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 12 2012 @ 02:43 PM EDT
"As Such" in NZ
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 12 2012 @ 05:34 AM EDT
To followup on Stegu's post, from the UK Patents Act 1977 (page 8):
(2) It is hereby declared that the following (among other things) are not inventions for the purposes of this Act, that is to say, anything which consists of -

(a) a discovery, scientific theory or mathematical method;

(b) a literary, dramatic, musical or artistic work or any other aesthetic creation whatsoever;

(c) a scheme, rule or method for performing a mental act, playing a game or doing business, or a program for a computer;

(d) the presentation of information;

but the foregoing provision shall prevent anything from being treated as an invention for the purposes of this Act only to the extent that a patent or application for a patent relates to that thing as such.

From HTC Europe v Apple, the '948 patent:
21. 948 is entitled "Touch event model". It has a priority date of 4th March 2008. In broad terms it is concerned with computer devices with inputs which are multi-touch enabled, that is to say they are capable of responding to more than one touch at the same time.

94. It is clear that one part of the contribution of the 948 patent lies in the software which processes the multi-touch input. This is plainly excluded subject matter. The contribution also includes the advantage that it makes it easier to write software for the device. I consider that this contribution also lies wholly within excluded subject matter. The writing of programs for computers seems to me fall squarely within the exclusion of computer programs as such.

95. I turn therefore to Mr Burkill's approach, which is to consider whether there is a relevant technical effect. As to the first of his points, I do not think that ease of writing application software can be a relevant technical effect outside the computer. I accept Mr Tappin's submission that, in the context of the computer program exclusion, ease of writing computer programs cannot be a relevant technical contribution or effect. The writing of computer programs is excluded subject matter. Making it easier for one part of the software to be written is merely a re-distribution of the labour of writing the software. For completeness I would add that the structure of the software does not have any real world effect on the way the device performs. It was common ground that one could not tell whether or not any given device was using the invention.

96. The second point, that the method applies at the operating system level is correct. But not every method which operates at this level will be patentable. This signpost derives from the first of the IBM cases T 0006/83 referred to by Lewison J at [21], a case concerned with a network of computers. At [6] the Board referred to "features … not concerned with the nature of the data and the way in which the particular application program operates on them" as being patentable. In my judgment the invention of 948 is precisely concerned with the way in which the software operates on the data, namely the touch events.

97. The third point, that the claimed technical effect results in the computer working in a new way, by presenting a new API to the developer in which touch events are sent selectively, is not correct. The computer is not working in a new way in any relevant sense. There is merely a redistribution of the data processing within the device.

98. Next, there is no evidence of an increase of speed or reliability of the computer. Finally, I do not regard the last point as persuasive in a case where the problem solved is entirely within the computer.

99. I conclude that the invention, at least as claimed in claims 1 and 2, is not patentable because it is a computer program as such.

The '022 patent:
100. The 022 patent is entitled "Unlocking a device by performing gestures on an unlock image".

241. I think Professor Keyson was reading far too much into the contribution of 022. Nevertheless, I think there was a contribution here which went beyond a computer program as such or the mere presentation of information. There is a sense in which the invention provides a technical effect outside the computer, namely an improved switch. Moreover this is a real world effect which is not limited to the presentation of information. Whilst the subject matter of the invention is obvious, the patent is not invalid for excluded subject matter.

The '868 patent:
242. The 868 patent is entitled "Portable electronic device for photo management".

280. HTC submit that, as with 022, the invention provides no more than a way of informing the user that he has reached the edge of an image. I think there is more to the invention than that. As I have construed the patent it provides a novel method of manipulating a zoomed image involving gestures having different effects. I think that the method cannot properly be described as a computer program as such, or the presentation of information as such.

The '859 patent:
281. 859 is entitled "Portable radio communication apparatus using different alphabets". 358. I have construed the claims above. HTC submit that the contribution lies in the particular way in which the characters have to be stored in memory in order to fall within the claims. This brings with it a benefit in terms of flexibility in adding languages. They further submit that a particular arrangement of data storage in memory falls squarely within excluded subject matter. Moreover the contribution has no real world effect - Dr Brydon confirmed that the user experience is unaffected by whether or not the characters for a particular language use shared common characters or have their own separate set of characters.

359. I think these submissions understate the contribution of 859. Hagenuk does not disclose an SMS messaging capability. That produces an effect outside the computer, and is enough to take the invention outside the exclusion. 859 is not invalid on this ground.

Whilst these 4 patents died in this case, where HTC initially sought revocation of 3 Apple patents and Apple countersued for infringement of the three then the fourth, they died because they were either not infringed, were obvious or were anticipated. Confusingly, only the '948 was invalid because it was excluded subject matter. The others were valid subject matter.

There's also the Re Halliburton which I've mentioned previously.

IANAL but I believe that the NZ text is sufficiently close enough to the UK text with the "as such" provision that I would believe that within a short time software patents would be allowed.

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