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Not Quite - random generators
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, October 09 2012 @ 09:23 PM EDT
The hardware is necessary. Hence patentable.

The problem occurs when the model being used to claim software is math doesn't include a random number generator, and the hardware does. So all the patent attorneys are going to add the phrase, "On a system with a potentially real random number generator," and claim that makes everything patentable because the random number generator isn't included in the model used to say that software is math. Based on past experience, the Federal Circuit will likely say that sounds good to them.

So we are back where we started, expect the phrase on a computer has been replaced with on a computer with a random number generator.

If anyone is really interested in ending software patents without assuming that enough of the Supreme Court Justices have a clue, they should start working on an extension of the Turing model that includes some random factors, networks, and the like.

There is already a concept of turning machines with oracles, but I don't know if it has been fleshed out enough.

My guess is that this is quite doable, and would probably make a good Ph.D. thesis for a CS Grad student. But it something that needs to be done if you don't just want the patent attorneys to yell, "It's coming straight for us." before shooting the deer.

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Not Quite - random generators
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 11 2012 @ 04:55 AM EDT

It is impossible to create a perfect random number generator.
Mathematically, this is impossible in the first place - there is no such thing as a perfect random number sequence which a generator could create.

A paradox of random numbers is that the more random a sequence of numbers is closer to perfection (ie passes tests for unbiased randomness), the nearer to certainty the next number in the sequence can be predicted!

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