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I find the character assassination distasteful
Authored by: eric76 on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 04:11 AM EDT
Quite true, I think. The details of the bankruptcy are not important.

What is important is that he didn't mention the matter when asked.

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I find the character assassination distasteful
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 04:42 AM EDT
But he brought it upon himself by saying things like "they
want to send a message about patents", he wanted to punish
and it will not be a slap on the wrist.

Considering that he worked in Seagate and Samsung is the
biggest share-holder and his bankruptcy resulted as a result
of Seagate's action, there is definitely a conflict of
interest situation. That is the reason questions are asked
about previous court cases involved. He was not truthful
when answering those questions.

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I find the character assassination distasteful
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 04:55 AM EDT
<em>If jury duty implies that everybody and his dog is free to wash
decades of one's dirty laundry in public, then nobody will serve any
more.</em>

Jury duty is a duty. You don't get to choose whether to serve.

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loan from Seagate -> lawsuit over house loan, bankruptcy
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 07:34 AM EDT
How can the dispute the juror had with Seagate be accurately described without
discussing the bankruptcy? He himself discussed in the press that he used
bankruptcy to save his house being lost to his debt with Seagate.

I think that once a subject has been brought up by the witness, it is fair game
to continue the investigation along those lines.

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    It is not character assassination.
    Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 07:53 AM EDT
    Given the large number of jurors on this case, it is unlikely that Mr Hogan is
    the only one who has had financial problems. Samsung's attorneys have raised
    issues about this juror who appears to have ignored multiple directions from the
    court (and wants to boast about his actions). There are some unusual things
    about this bankruptcy filing, that Mr. Hogan appeared to have sufficient income
    to pay off his debts, and that the major debt was the $25,000 he owed to
    Seagate. This is relevant to whether or not Mr Hogan could have biased against
    Samsung.

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    Calling this a lynching is pretty naive
    Authored by: artp on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 10:19 AM EDT
    This isn't anywhere near a lynching. In any case, Hogan
    stuck his neck in a noose for anyone to pull the lever on.
    He volunteered for the position. Nobody forced him to go on
    tour, with T-shirts being sold in the lobby. The man is a
    piece of work. And even that comment doesn't approach being
    a lynching. It's an observation of facts.

    If criticism automatically becomes a lynching, if
    considering legal matters automatically becomes a lynching,
    then it pretty much shuts out any discussion of the topic,
    doesn't it?

    I wonder who would benefit from stifling discussion of this
    topic? Hhhmmmm?

    ---
    Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
    When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
    sinks ?

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    I find the character assassination distasteful
    Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 05:37 PM EDT
    Assuming you are correct that this is character assassination-- I find it hard
    to have any sympathy for him. This is a man who gave pages and pages of quotes
    to the press. Most of the other jurors didn't even give one quote, the one other
    juror who did gave two quotes each around two paragraphs. If you don't want the
    spotlight shined on you don't step into the spotlight.

    The other thing is that had he simply answered truthfully during voir dire, and
    he virtually says he that he deliberately did no0t mention these lawsuits
    himself, the bankruptcy itself would have sent up red flags and he would have
    been dismissed from jury duty.

    Keep in mind too, that most of what we are saying now would not have seen the
    light of day if Judge Koh had done as Samsung requested and sealed parts of the
    motion mentioning Hogan and told jurors not to talk to the press anymore. Or if
    Apple had not opposed that part. So blame Apple.

    As for character ... when he got sued by Seagate, he could have made some
    arrangement with Seagate to pay off the debt probably even having some forgiven.
    The way these things work, his lawyer probably suggested it. Instead he let it
    get to the point where Seagate felt they had to sue him. Even then, we see he
    could have rearranged his finances and paid back Seagate. Instead went and
    declared bankruptcy just so he wouldn't have to pay them, which is something
    that is much more painful then paying them.

    It is strongly suggestive that that this guy has to be right no matter what the
    facts are. This is confirmed by other things we see, running away at the Gizmodo
    interview when challenged, saying the judge asked only about the last ten years,
    etc. Seems to me his character really can't be assassinated.

    Mouse the Lucky Dog

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    more like character self-immolation n/t
    Authored by: cjk fossman on Monday, October 08 2012 @ 05:47 PM EDT
    .

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