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... Mr Hogan was insufficiently confident ... ?? | 751 comments | Create New Account
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But where does that leave you?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 03 2012 @ 05:19 PM EDT
Yabbut...

At the end, the judge came back and asked the general question about there being
anything else the potential jurors thought the court ought to know. If Hogan
had felt like the judge had run by him earlier and didn't want to interrupt or
grab attention back from the flow of the judge's questions, at that last
question he had an opportunity to fill in the blanks...and he didn't do it.

Now one might claim to excuse him on the grounds that it slipped his mind by
then, but that's awfully thin.

On the whole, I think Hogan is rationalizing as fast as he can to avoid facing
up to the fact that he lied to court, either through commission or omission.
He's probably desperate by now to make sure it's "omission".

This kind of behavior is *extremely* common cases involving schools and teachers
getting entangled in freedom of religion issues. (Not to say that anything even
remotely like that is going on here, only to say that it a common aspect of
human nature seen in other types of cases.)

--W. H. Heydt

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... Mr Hogan was insufficiently confiden ... ??
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 03 2012 @ 07:21 PM EDT
From what we've seen of his behavior since then, I find it VERY difficult to
believe that! The only reason I can see for his not doing what you say is that
he _wanted_ to conceal it.

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... Mr Hogan was insufficiently confident ... ??
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 03 2012 @ 07:23 PM EDT
From what we've seen of his behavior since then, I find it VERY difficult to
believe that! The only reason I can see for his not doing what you say is that
he _wanted_ to conceal it.

Sorry about the mis-spelling in the original post.

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He either lied, or was oblivious!
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 04 2012 @ 12:27 AM EDT
I can't really imagine that he wanted to tell the whole truth in voir dire but was somehow prevented from doing so by the format of the questions. That doesn't pass the laugh-test.

He could have answered the question starting with "Yes, I've had a couple of cases." and then he would have been questioned about them until the Judge and lawyers were completely satisfied.

Instead, he volunteered info about one case, and ONLY one case.

It isn't completely clear from the transcript whether he was all done explaining, or whether the Judge was in a rush to move on. But either way -- if Hogan had intended to finish answering the question, all he would have had to do is hold up his hand.


I can think of about three possible explanations for what happened (one of which is quite implausible):

(1) He knew his answer was incomplete, but he was intimidated by the questioning, and when the Judge moved on he just felt relieved that he wasn't "on the spot" anymore, and he kept silent. And at no time afterwards, did he come forward and volunteer that information to the Judge or to the bailiff or to the other jurors (who presumably would have told the Judge). This scenario seems very unlikely to me. Wouldn't he feel guilty or something? He's outspoken enough to sway the jury and then go give media interviews about it, so if he wanted to tell the Judge about his Seagate lawsuit and bankruptcy I'm sure he would have.

(2) He knew his answer was incomplete, and either it was malicious and intentional, or he had convinced himself that he was doing the right thing through some sort of self-delusion. This seems most likely to me (although I don't have any idea if it was malicious or not).

(3) He was genuinely unaware that his answer was not sufficient. He started talking about the case, and his train of thought followed that, and by the time the Judge replied he had sort of forgotten the exact scope of the original question, and ended up giving a rather misleading answer but not realizing he had done so. (Maybe he realized it later during the trial, or maybe he didn't... but the point would be that in this scenario, he didn't deliberately lie to get on the jury, but sort of "accidentally" misled the Judge and lawyers and then to his happy surprise, made it onto the jury.)

I think scenario (3) is sort of unlikely, but I'm not prepared to dismiss it out of hand--we've seen this juror make some mighty odd pronouncements in the media about prior art, about patent eligibility, about using his own personal experiences to sway the other jurors (in direct contravention of the jury instructions), etc. Accurately following a precise train of thought is difficult for some people; it's mildly surprising to see it in an engineer, but not completely unheard of.

And if that were the case, he would probably not be aware of it (e.g. Dunning-Kruger effect).

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