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The German government view this as a patent infringement. | 183 comments | Create New Account
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Ninth circuit view this as a contract dispute
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Saturday, September 29 2012 @ 06:30 PM EDT
The concept that a FRAND pledge without any offer of compensation from those
taking advantage of the pledge is a contract is pretty far fetched.

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The German government view this as a patent infringement.
Authored by: Ian Al on Sunday, September 30 2012 @ 04:27 AM EDT
The US Government pointed out in Microsoft v. AT&T that the United States law governs domestically but does not rule the world.

The German court has issued an injunction for the violation of patents under German law, in Germany. Whatever contract dispute the United States court is considering within their jurisdiction is irrelevant to what the German court is considering within its jurisdiction.

The US Government has decreed that:
“Foreign conduct is [generally] the domain of foreign law,” and... foreign law “may embody different policy judgments about the relative rights of inventors, competitors, and the public in patented inventions.”
Even if there were a FRAND licence agreement for a contract for patent licence in the jurisdiction of Germany, the US Government says that it is for consideration by the German courts under German law. The US Government could not be clearer. It is not a patent, FRAND or contract issue: it is an issue of law and jurisdiction in the respective countries and US agreements on international law made by the US Government with the other countries of most of the world.

I suspect that folk are remembering when the bankruptcy judge stayed arbitration in Europe between SCO and Suse. The judge determined that Suse was an American run company exercising an arbitration agreement according to a US trade entity registered and with its articles of association under US law. The judge could not order the arbitrators to stop, but they could instruct an American company to carry out a halt to their activities in support.

If Suse had not been deemed to be run by Novell executives and had a completely independent management structure, they might have got away with it even though the association was incorporated in the 'States. The courts in the 'States would have been restricted to ruling on the entitlements of the partners under US law and the contracted terms.

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Ian Al
Software Patents: It's the disclosed functions in the patent, stupid!

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