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Marc's Laptop (does he use SSD or regular HD)?
Authored by: cassini2006 on Wednesday, September 19 2012 @ 11:45 PM EDT

I use an SSD in my laptop. However, the failure rate with some manufacturers SSDs is horrific. A disk drive, when it crashes, you can often still get critical data off of it. An SSD either (a) soft-errors and causes random data corruption and windows crashes, or (b) hard locks instantly. Either way, you aren't getting valid data off of it.

If you use an SSD, have a really good backup strategy that keeps a history of changes. I use rsync. Apple's Time Machine would work too. I have not had any Intel SSDs fail yet. I have had a significant number of failures with the other major manufacturer's SSDs.

If you use a hard drive, make sure it is in a computer, and is periodically scanned to verify the integrity of the backup. I've been noticing that the newer hard drives can fail silently. They have such large capacities, you won't find out it is failed until it is way too late to copy the data off. I've caught two drives in the portable carriers silently failing. As such, I've been doing my current backups to full computers (not portable drives.) This way I can verify the "backup" is actually a backup by reading the data back.

If you run Linux, try:

rsync --checksum --backup --backup-dir=backdir -avS indir outdir
The --checksum forces complete file reads, and will alert you if your storage media on either side is unreliable. The --backup option prevents rsync from deleting the old data files, as the failure could either be an unreliable SSD on the laptop or a unreliable (portable) hard drive on the desktop.

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Marc's Laptop (does he use SSD or regular HD)?
Authored by: cassini2006 on Wednesday, September 19 2012 @ 11:58 PM EDT

One further follow up: When running Linux with most of the newer SSDs, it is no longer necessary to do a special track/cluster format with Linux to get maximum drive life. Simply install Linux as normal, and disable the paging partition.

Windows 7 on the other hand, has a bug with certain models of SSDs where if the computer goes into suspend, then the SSD stops responding permanently. By default, Windows 7 loves to suspend on a laptop. I've seen Windows 7 go to suspend during system updates in Windows 7. The good news is that the manufacturer will send you a new (blank) SSD if you have been bitten by this bug during the warranty period.

Other disadvantages of Windows 7 with SSDs are:
- Windows 7 likes to have a page file, which wears out SSDs quickly.
- The disk footprint of Windows 7 with Office and Antivirus is typically larger than that of Linux with LibreOffice.
- Linux often boots quicker than Windows 7 if suspend is not used.

Lesson: If you are going to use SSDs on a laptop, run Linux.

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Marc's Laptop (does he use SSD or regular HD)?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 20 2012 @ 01:28 AM EDT
SSD's can fail too, I set Mageia up on one for a brother it worked for one month
has now corrupted and failed 4 times in a week. It now has corrupt sectors that
Mageia will not allow it to format or repair.
Unfortunately from the other normal HD in the system running Windows 7 it is
still able to format and or repair it. Shame it ran blisteringly quick and is
back to the supplier this weekend. It isn't due to a system hardware failure it
is the SSD!

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Marc's Laptop (does he use SSD or regular HD)?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 20 2012 @ 08:55 AM EDT
I'm running my SSD based laptop with Solaris 11 x64 - loving it (SSD coupled
with ZFS - match made in Cyber-Nirvanna), FDE goodness to boot.

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