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ZDNet: Without radical change in patent law, Android ecosystem will die | 190 comments | Create New Account
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ZDNet: Without radical change in patent law, Android ecosystem will die
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, September 17 2012 @ 12:27 PM EDT
ZDNet: Without radical change in patent law, Android ecosystem will die

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State warned on ditching copyrighted software (Kenya)
Authored by: feldegast on Monday, September 17 2012 @ 01:25 PM EDT
"...we are accountable when our software is hacked"

Really? i thought that the EULA excluded that and Microsoft
only does something because if Microsoft didn't nobody would
buy anything from them.
Also if they were accountable, why do Microsoft write
software so full of bugs?

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Re: State warned on ditching copyrighted software (Kenya)
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, September 17 2012 @ 01:32 PM EDT
It is not just the part about copyright that is misinformation.

The whole bit about being open to cracking doesn't mention the point that MS
software is many times more susceptible to cracking than most open source.
Additionally, MS tends to be pretty careful to set up its license agreements to
limit its liability, so that having someone "responsible" that you can
go to for support is no guarantee that you will get better support than you
would for an open source product (even if you do not choose to explicitly
purchase support for the open source, which is available from a variety of
providers at competitive prices). And, even the unpaid support

John Macdonald

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Google Doesn’t Require Google Search On Android,
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, September 17 2012 @ 09:21 PM EDT

That's right, it doesn't. Android device makers are free to use whatever apps they like. Google would of course prefer that they don't ship pirated apps. And the OHA, not Google, insists that OHA devices must be "Google compatible", whatever that means.

The Postscript about Google Play is interesting too. You can take a non-Google android device, point your browser at play.google.com, download and install the Play Store app, but it won't run. You need to obtain the Google Framework from an "unofficial" developer site.

Will The Real Android Please Stand Up? , and what license is implied by the use of Android?

Google: Accept Ownership Of Real Android . I don't expect that to happen. After all isn't the OHA the "owner" of the One True Android? And of course Google wasn't leaning on Acer, simply doing the honorable thing in reminding another club member of their obligations.

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Koh decides not to lift Galaxy Tab injunction yet despite jury verdict
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 18 2012 @ 02:47 AM EDT
http://allthingsd.com/20120917/despite-verdict-j udge- koh-wont-lift-galaxy-tab-10-1-injunction-for-now/

Seems like everyone involved has decided to punish Samsung beyond the maximum reasonable amount regardless of facts, laws, or jury verdicts

Substantial issues indeed...

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Google Doesn’t Require Google Search On Android, Despite What FairSearch & Microsoft Want Yo
Authored by: indyandy on Tuesday, September 18 2012 @ 04:27 AM EDT
As a European I find the current behaviour of Microsoft, Dell and Asus particularly galling. While Microsoft is claiming it was an 'accident' that Europeans were not offered a choice of browser at install time, Dell and Asus users (and maybe others?) are coerced into installing BingBar.

Dell:

In the process of keeping my customers' computers healthy I am obliged to launch Internet Explorer to check Flash is up to date.

The default home page is of the form http://dell.fr.msn.com/?pc=....

The content is a message which says (roughly translated from the French):

Congratulations!

The Bing toolbar is waiting for nothing but you.

By clicking on "OK" you accept the Microsoft Service Agreement and Confidentiality Agreement. You will receive the latest updates to the Bing toolbar and other Microsoft products through Microsoft Update. This program may also download and install certain updates automatically

(Screenshot available on request. 'Microsoft Service Agreement', 'Confidentiality Agreement', and 'Microsoft Update' - or their French equivalents - appear to be hyperlinks)

"Not much wrong with that", you may think, "all you have to do is click on 'Cancel' and carry on working. You have to click on 'OK' to opt in to this."

Except there is no 'Cancel'. The only obvious way to move on is to hit 'OK'. If you close the tab or close IE then IE closes down and on the next launch the same page is displayed.

I work with computers all day every day and it took me a minute or two to work out how to continue without installing BingBar. What is poor Joe Public going to do?

Asus

Asus is maybe even more egregious

In the windows setup phase we are presented with a click-through license agreement which reads as follows:

MICROSOFT SOFTWARE LICENSE TERMS

WINDOWS 7 STARTER SERVICE PACK 1

These licence terms are an agreement between you and ... (The rest of the text is obscured on my photo as it is necessary to scroll down the text box to see the remaining text)

(Checkbox) I accept the license terms (required to use Windows)

Bing Bar

Bing is installed and ready to go. If you use the Bing Bar on this computer, some data about service performance, your machine and your service use will be sent to Microsoft; this data will not be used to personally identify you. Learn More http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Linkid=74170

(checkbox) I accept the license terms (required to use your computer)

(Slightly blurred photograph available on request. Note this click-through agreement occurs so early in the setup phase that it is impossible to access the URL unless you have another computer next to you or you are prepared to note it down or memorize it for later use.)

What??? I have to agree to the Bing Bar license conditions before I can use the computer that my customer has bought and paid for? I can (and do) uninstall BingBar once Windows is up and running but should I be required to go this trouble if my true preference is to opt out?

In both cases it could be argued that the user opted in to having Bing Bar on their machines, but in both cases the user had almost no choice but to do so.

Am I the only one who has had this experience? Am I just being over-sensitive?

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