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The Inscrutable Orient
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 13 2012 @ 06:42 PM EDT
Hard to tell what's going on here. Why should Google care about "Android shipments" . Maybe because of the separate AliCloud sucking revenue? Or
The advantages for Aliyun include, for example, the integration of the online payment services provided by Alipay, an Alibaba affiliate, into the operating system to make mobile transactions easier and more secure, Mr. Zeng said.
WSJ

Surely App sales are too trivial to worry Google?
The OS itself is a binary-compatible Android clone. An App Store was launched with the Aliyun OS that contains downloadable Android APK_(file_format) files.
wikipedia

For the record at least one other Chinese handset maker ships Android installed in an export flavor with full Google apps suite, and in a domestic flavor with no Google apps, cloud or ad connections. Huawei Android 4.0.3 B926 Chinese version , and B934 General version

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'Google strangled Acer phone using Alibaba Android rival at birth'
Authored by: PJ on Thursday, September 13 2012 @ 06:49 PM EDT
Don't be ridiculous. This is part of the smear
Google campaign.

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Ho. Hum.
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 13 2012 @ 06:57 PM EDT
This is a non-issue.

Just as Android is not Java, Aliyun is not Android.

Go back to sleep.

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  • But, but, but... - Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 13 2012 @ 09:52 PM EDT
There's likely more to this than presented
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 13 2012 @ 07:41 PM EDT
Ie using a google logo or android branding or something without permission.
Just because android is open source doesn't mean everything else is fair game
too. Looks pretty bad but I don't think that's the full story yet - we've only
heard from one side, so I'd reserve judgment for now.

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Microsoft's Connection to Alibaba
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 13 2012 @ 10:27 PM EDT

Obviously with just a single reference for the connection - they may be different entities and/or it may not mean anything.

Apparently Yahoo owns 43% of Alibaba.

And of course, Microsoft once-upon-a-time made quite the bid to acquire Yahoo. When that failed, they entered search and advertising deals with each other.

Is the connection meaningless? Or is this just another proxy attack arranged by Microsoft on Google?

I guess we'll have to wait for the rest of the story.

RAS

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How could you reasonably consider it the same?
Authored by: Charles888 on Thursday, September 13 2012 @ 11:02 PM EDT
Did they threaten to sue?

They just told their partner that
has a preferential treatment, that
if they want to maintain this
preferential treatment, they need to
be more committed To them. The 2
way street thing.

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except we can't substantiate this claim
Authored by: designerfx on Friday, September 14 2012 @ 07:50 AM EDT
nobody can validate this acer issue. it's poor on websites to
report this when we can't even validate it.

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'Google strangled Acer phone using Alibaba Android rival at birth'
Authored by: odysseus on Friday, September 14 2012 @ 11:07 AM EDT
I have serious doubts about this. Acer and others already manufacture phones
with other OS's on them, or are developing new OS's, including Windows, Bada,
Tizen, and others, but Google has never appeared to pressure them to drop
support. Why would they worry about a new OS in China when they have 80% market
share there and growing? No, something stinks about this...

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Only source is Alibaba/Aliyun
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, September 14 2012 @ 12:31 PM EDT

The only source for these rumors so far has been Alibaba / Aliyun.

Don't forget that Google had to leave China in 2010 after state-sponsored hacking attempts.

Furthermore, Google has been targeted specifically by the Chinese regime for its stance on censorship.

Source 1 and Source 2 - these documents came out after Bo Xilai's fall and from Wikileaks and other docs.

For all we know, Alibaba (makers of Aliyun) could be a proxy for the Chinese regime in its war against Google.

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