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We patent rounded corners here in the US...
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, September 12 2012 @ 01:38 PM EDT
So what's the difference? This has gone far, far beyond what the patent system
was designed for, so it shouldn't surprise anyone at this point. If Apple can
rip off the rest of the world by perverting the patent system, why shouldn't
everyone else be able to do the same?

Seriously. :(

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Chinese company uses leaked photos to copy, patent iPhone 5 design
Authored by: luvr on Wednesday, September 12 2012 @ 05:21 PM EDT
Well—As a particular great artist used to say: “Good artists copy, great artists steal.” Much to his chagrin, however, it turned out he wasn't the only great artist in town...

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Chinese Copyright...
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, September 12 2012 @ 08:06 PM EDT
is the right to copy whatever you like

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Only a matter of time before you can buy "knockoff" from peg at grocery store for cheap ($35-50)
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 13 2012 @ 08:55 AM EDT
Once the China folks find a way around Apple, they will undercut Apple world wide and maybe you will find these products hanging on a peg board display at your local grocery store selling for $30-$50 or so, cheap. Or, even cheaper? Any bets? I bet we will see that happen one day in the future. If not tomorrow, then within 5-10 years, easy to imagine.

Commodity tech pricing at a dollar store. Yep. Profit, then, is all kept in China feeding 60 cent wages at "army ant manufacturing sites" Where they can wake up 8,000 worker from dorms, feed them tea and a muffin, send them out to work a 12 hour shift, then without an effort, or talking to a Union, just build 10,000 iPhones in 96 hours (including re-fitting the assembly line due to Apple changing a design mid-production.

Oh there will be a profit margin for retail store, is along the same profit as to what is already on the peg board for sale, they will not care, will be just another thingy they can sell, and if it sells, they just put more up on the peg board.

So, then Apple's stock (if it can't protect it's designs) falls. Or falls, if the folks in China do a design that consumers buy here, because it is ok, and it is the only thing that they can afford due to the Economy.

Wal-mart's quarterly report in August showed a trend in their international stores (1/4 of their revenue is from international stores) where consumers in UK and other places are now "clearly stretched" and are spending on a Paycheck- to-paycheck cycle (same trend that started in US a Wal-mart quarterly reports prior to 2007 crash).

See:
Wal-Mart: 'Paycheck' Cycle Spreads Retailer Reports Higher Quarterly Results and Raises Full- Year Estimate, but Says Shoppers Run Low on Money Quickly

Still, customers living paycheck-to-paycheck "remains pronounced" in the U.S, said Chief Executive Mike Duke.

Wal-Mart cautioned that it is now seeing in international markets the same "paycheck cycle" it saw in the U.S., where customers buy immediately after payday and then make smaller purchases as money runs out. The trend has become particularly pronounced in the U.K., where customers at Wal-Mart's Asda grocery stores are "clearly stretched," Chief Financial Officer Charles Holley said during a conference call with reporters Thursday morning.

(from pay-walled Wall St Journal site, so google it)...
OR
Sales at Wal- Mart, Though Still Rising, Suggest Wary Shoppers
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/17/business/wal-marts- earnings-suggest-stra ined-shoppers.html

So, folks WORLD-WIDE, if we can see this report as a reflection of what is happening, are only buying during payday, rest of week not spending because they don't have money until *the next* payday. The product(s) that will sell during these "obviously tougher" times, will be the one that is OK, and cheaper. I don't believe that patents will be enough to support Apple's higher pricing - as they will not be able to totally kill Android. Microsoft, they will use their corporate lock-in income to subsidize their way... but, will be challenged to match commodity pricing that consumers will demand, as that will be what they can afford.

If there is another hic-cup (like 2007 fuel price increases) world-wide, then *that* will be another story in itself that will challenge the sale figures of all companies, including Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc.

Look for an iPhone knockoff to show up near a grocery store check-out cash register near you... soon!

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