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Are Mac users like cattle?
Authored by: IMANAL_TOO on Saturday, September 08 2012 @ 02:40 AM EDT
"what is it about the Mac that is turning him into a cow?"

I think it has a lot to do with what you wrote:

"I like the mac because of hardware reliability & capability, OS
reliability, program consistency, and yes, everything generally seems to
"just work", and work well."

Here, I particularly dislike the "program consistency" and perhaps
strangely enough, that it "just work[s]".

There is no room for me in that. It is all set for me with no room to wiggle and
break things. That is also why I like Debian Sid and the multitude of ways to
break things, and be able to fix things on my own. I don't have to be reliant on
an overpriced chain of merchandize to get things running again.

Oh, I almost forgot, and quite ironically. Your reference to all those 25 %
scientists with Mac. That reminded me of the years before when I got my PhD.
Yes, I recall that those who used to use Mac were more unidimensional, less
prone to explore alternative solutions. Thats was my impression already then and
has not changed much since. In fact many used them because of two or three
specialized programs then not available for Windows. Much later, when our
neighboring department had bought a new Mac G6, one senior colleague muttered
"Well, there's a new sucker born everyday"; his g-index is over 140.

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Are Mac users like cattle?
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, September 08 2012 @ 08:22 AM EDT
I find installing software on linux can be a pain - I always seem to run into rpm dependencies, perhaps because the software I'm trying to install isn't from major vendors.

I don't know what Linux you are using, I have been using Ubuntu since 2008 and I have no issues with installs. Synaptic is excellent and you find Ubuntu packages all over for just about anything. If you need to run a windows program you don't even need a VM because you can just run it under Wine or Playonlinux and you can also use the proprietary crossover software. Ubuntu is extremely reliable, it never crashes, and there are very frequent security updates (3-4 times per month). For Apple fanboys the new Unity Gui will even make Ubuntu look like a Mac ... for those who need it.

Compared to Windows machines, I like the mac because of hardware reliability & capability, OS reliability, program consistency, and yes, everything generally seems to "just work", and work well.

... who do you think you are fooling with that kind of statement? This silly claim is typical for Apple users, apparently they need to somehow try to justify paying 3x the normal price for a likely inferior product to themselves.

Apple uses the same components inside, the same ones that everybody else is using. How else do you think you could run Windows under a VM on an Apple box, if they were not using the exact same parts inside?

Apple had massiv failures of Graphics-Chips, just like everybody else did who was building those chips into their boxes (like Dell). Apple had to use 3rd party Graphics-Chips because they can't develop and manufacture them themselves.

On their newer Models (2011-2012) Apple are using Intel integrated Graphics, which is sort of ok, but of course you do not get the kind of performance out of them as you would with a dedicated graphics processor (discrete), so they are much much slower compared to the Windows based high- performance Gamers-Notebooks. How "capable" do you think that is? (for at least double the price by the way)

The new Macbooks you cannot repair because of the way they are built, you even have to send them in just to get the battery pack changed, how "capable" and user friendly is that?

U.S. government has taken Apple off their supplier list, because they no longer meet EPA (EPEAT) standards. Real high-tech environmental friendly products those Apples eh?

From personal experience with a Macbook, I can say DVD-Drive defective and defective power supply. Disproportionately high reliability is that?

~SD

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I always seem to run into rpm dependencies
Authored by: artp on Saturday, September 08 2012 @ 11:53 AM EDT
Perhaps what is happening is that on the Mac, you cannot
find any applications that do not install because Apple has
to approve them first.

On Linux, it is very easy to find applications that do not
install. All you have to do is go outside your
distribution's software repository and install something
that wasn't compiled and packaged for your version of your
distribution.

With Debian-based distros, that doesn't happen very often. I
do find that most of the angband variants don't know much
about Linux. unangband was briefly packaged only for Fedora
and Arch using xv compression. Yuck! It now works with Mint.
There are a few others that haven't gotten into the Debian
repositories. It seems that most of these are refugees from
Windows-land, who are still learning the different ways of
UNIX-land.

Some people just want it to work, and want to pay for the
support.

I just want it to work, and also have the option to totally
destroy it during an out-of-brain experience. I can always
put it back together again.

As long as you watch where you get your software, it is hard
to find a package that will not install. I may not have the
hardware to run it, but it will install - thinking of
processor, RAM and graphics requirements there.

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Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
sinks ?

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