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Allen v. World - Interval Moves to Incorporate Mountain Lion ~MW | 129 comments | Create New Account
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Authored by: Kilz on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 09:10 AM EDT
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Authored by: Kilz on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 09:11 AM EDT
For all the posts that are not on topic.

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Authored by: Kilz on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 09:13 AM EDT
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back to the story is also helpful for when it drops off the
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Comes
Authored by: Kilz on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 09:14 AM EDT
Please post all transcriptions of Comes exhibits here for PJ.
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Sigh...
Authored by: Crocodile_Dundee on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 09:19 AM EDT
Sadly, I'm not sure I care how Apple fares in this one.

They're not winning friends.

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That's not a law suit. *THIS* is a law suit!

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Allen v. World - Interval Moves to Incorporate Mountain Lion
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 09:22 AM EDT
While I think that Interval is pond scum, and Apple is in a
related species of pond scum, I appreciate the irony of the
situation. To change biological classifications, this is
sort of like one cockroach engaging a second in a death
match.

What's not clear to me is PJ's comment that Apple might have
to disgorge their (purported) winnings in the Samsung rape.
Given the number of Interval claims (the ones that still
survive), it is possible that - if Apple were to lose - they
might have to disgorge several times the amount that they
purportedly one from Samsung.

It's going to get even uglier.

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I find myself cheering for the dark side
Authored by: stegu on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 09:36 AM EDT
While I would usually wish plague and scurvy
on Interval and companies like it, this time I
think their actions might serve as a public,
high profile example of why this madness needs
to stop. Apple may need to learn that they are
not safe from the ugly side effects of a runaway
patent system, and the legislators need to see
what a crazy circus they have set the stage for.

I will have mixed feelings as this case develops,
but it will be interesting to watch.

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reap what you sow.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 10:27 AM EDT
I loath apple and all patent trolls. Part of me thinks it
would serve apple right if they lost billions on this.

Sadly that would encourage more trolls so it can't happen.

Nothing like a good dose of come uppance though is there.

The us should change the law so that you have to prove you
have, are or will be releasing a device that practices your
patent before granting it.

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Allen v. World - Interval Moves to Incorporate Mountain Lion ~MW
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 10:39 AM EDT
.. and while you're at it, please explain how patents help the economy or the
world *AT ALL*.

I sincerely do not believe anymore that they do.

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Is this vagueness a legal standard?
Authored by: capt.Hij on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 11:14 AM EDT
I do not understand this part of the request:
Without an opportunity to examine OS X in detail to determine precisely how it infringes the patents-in-suit, Interval could not supplement its infringement contentions with the level of detail that the local patent rules require.

What does it mean to "examine in detail" when all they have is a binary copy. They do not state which patents it infringes and how. Sorry, I know this sounds sarcastic, but it is a serious question. Is this really the legal standard that the courts expect? Is this all it takes to drag a legal team on a marathon march to respond to a broad request or is this just the preliminary set of documents that will be dragged out?

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"OS X Was Not Publicly Available at the Time of Interval’s Infringement Contentions"
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 01:53 PM EDT
I wonder if Interval will get in trouble for this rather
outrageous falsehood.

Frankly they deserve ten times this case visited upon them
and their children's children unto the fifth generation, but
this has to be either sloppy filing or intentionality
misleading.

Are Interval really trying to suggest that OSX was
originally released during 2012?

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Allen v. World - Interval Moves to Incorporate Mountain Lion ~MW
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, September 05 2012 @ 05:44 PM EDT
The ignorance about software patents reflected in most of the posts here is
astonishing.

Why software patents, such as those obtained by Interval, are relevant:
Interval spent upwards of $200MM looking into the future, to help drive how the
internet could, and would, be used. Why is Interval not entitled to recoup its
investment in technology, when it was the first to have the forward thinking
that let it develop what is now used by lots of web sites?

An amusing tidbit: One of the early employees of Interval involved in such
efforts was actually the Stanford professor who guided a couple of guys named
Sergei Brin and Larry Page in their development of a new browser. Oh, wait!
That was Google. Now Google complains that they should be free to use what
Interval invented, and patented, years before Google adopted it.

From the posts, somehow software patents, that run on commodity OTS processors,
are the bane of everyone's existence. How is that different from hardware
patents? No one seems to object to hardware patents. Those processors are
covered by lots of patents, and that's OK, right?

Also, think about how many start-ups have survived because they had software
patents. Big companies are seldom the best innovators, even though they get the
most patents, usually on junk. Little companies usually come up with the big
ideas, including software ideas. If they couldn't patent their ideas, companies
like Apple, Microsoft, etc., would simply copy every innovation created by a
small start-up, and the start-up would die. Look at how many innovations (from
small companies) Microsoft absorbed as Windows has grown. Those little
companies that didn't have patents ended up dead, or taking pennies on the
dollar. Apple has done exactly the same thing in the Mac universe. Extrapolate
that: If no software patents are possible, pretty soon there would be no money
invested in software start-ups, because everyone would know that the big
companies could just steal the technology. Who would innovate then? If you
believe the big companies will, Sarah Palin will be by to sell you her Bridge to
Nowhere at a very favorable price.

Sounds like a great future for innovation, doesn't it? Ignorance is not bliss,
it's just ignorance.


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