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The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android: Galaxy Nexus in Apple v. Samsung II ~pj | 306 comments | Create New Account
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The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android: Galaxy Nexus in Apple v. Samsung II ~pj
Authored by: tknarr on Sunday, September 02 2012 @ 09:01 PM EDT

That's competition: when someone makes a product, other people try to make a similar product that's either better, cheaper or both. You can't deal with competition, you don't belong in the business world. Ford doesn't whine because GM or Honda copied their idea of "automobile", they just come up with models that offer something in looks or features or reliability or price that people prefer over the alternatives. If they're successful, the model sells well. If they aren't, they go back to the drawing board.

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You dont think that Apple copied just as much? n/t
Authored by: Kilz on Sunday, September 02 2012 @ 09:28 PM EDT
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The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android: Galaxy Nexus in Apple v. Samsung II ~pj
Authored by: Charles888 on Sunday, September 02 2012 @ 10:27 PM EDT
Thus is quite a naive statement, and
disconnected from reality. There is
nothing remotely similar between
Samsung devices and Apples - unless
you consider basic phone
functionally, which means ALL phones
are a copy of each others.
On the merits, NONE of the patents
Apple is asserting should be
granted. There is nothing novel
about them. They just happen as
part of the normal advances in touch
screens - advances Apple has nothing
to do with except being a customer
of the makers of these screens (one
of them is Samsung)

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Sweeping generalization against Samsung
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, September 02 2012 @ 11:08 PM EDT
If I were to do the same against Apple, then the problem with Apple is that they never innovate something original. Their business model for decades has been take inventions of someone else, wrap them in a shiny package and sell it to a cult-like fan following.

Just to debunk the allegation further. Samsung is one of the many companies that have made possible by their own innovations a majority of the components inside the shiny package of iPhone / iPad possible. Things like "retina- display" sound cool and bumping up display resolution density is an obvious evolution. But, manufacturing processes to be able to manufacture high pixel density screens in bulk and economically is non-trivial.

Same reason why Intel / AMD / Samsung / NVidia etc are trying to move to smaller and smaller nm manufacturing in their processor dies. 45nm, 32nm, 22nm and so on. There are several non-trivial things involved before a denser manufacturing becomes economically and technically viable. But, companies like Apple market these innovations as if their own just by virtue of integrating these in their products for the first time.

Apple is a relatively new player in the Phone market (only since 2007). For all the polish in their products, they chose design over function in their 4th phone causing the antenna-gate. Companies like Samsung have been in the fore- front of wireless technology and innovation for much longer than that. Samsung had innovations in the development of the 3G standard at the time when Apple chose to ignore 3G and go with GPRS and EDGE (2G) in their first iPhone.

Sweeping generalization is no good. Apple may be a good design company. But, it wants to claim complete monopoly over the entire market for an entire category of touch- screen enabled smart-phones which is ridiculous. The technology of capacitive touch screens and powerful enough mobile CPUs to go into a mobile hand-set was evolving. Apple showed to the world that there is a huge market for phones without a keyboard. But, Apple essentially wants to claim that they "invented" multi-touch and they "invented" the modern touchscreen smartphone, which is utter lies !!!

-PR

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The Next Step in Apple's Thermonuclear War Against Android: Galaxy Nexus in Apple v. Samsung II ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, September 03 2012 @ 03:17 AM EDT
Lovely comment, unhappily completely wrong.
Only in the US , Samsung is the 2nd biggest innovator only
after IBM.
Guess what, Apple is around 40 in the rank. Every year. Huawei
have more new patent every year than Apple. Panasonic, LG,
Sony, Toshiba...all around the first 10.

Read more, listen less Apple.

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So how come?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, September 03 2012 @ 07:21 AM EDT
If that is true how is that Apple stuff is built using invented and manufactured
Samsung parts? Seems to me that US influenced media may have swallowed the Apple
propaganda without question.

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