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Light at end of tunnel?
Authored by: Charles888 on Sunday, September 02 2012 @ 09:38 PM EDT
I doubt this will go any different
than the case just concluded,
considering that it is judge Grewal
they are dealing with. This looks
pretty much like a repeat of their
behavior in the first case, and the
judge either can't see through it
(could he be so blind?), or already
made up his mind and steering the
case (I refuse to think our justice
system leaves room for this)

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Light at end of tunnel?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, September 03 2012 @ 03:32 AM EDT
Apple doesn't get these kinds of successes on its own. The Federal Courts of
United States gave them the wins and the huge and disproportional fines over
very petty so-called infringements.

A trade barrier is established. Other countries don't find the same
infringements as the United States. Samsung may infringe Apple's patents in this
country but not in other courts.

Apple in conducting its thermonuclear war and the United States is exercising
its laws to help it.

Jobs wanted mass destruction, total annihilation of competitors, take no
prisoners and ultimately total power and control in HIS market.

The United States helps him in his war and calls it just. As long as we do this,
we are no better than Steve Jobs very own zombie.

I don't think the whole world is going belly up over this. Maybe the U.S.
doesn't want free trade. Maybe it is a thermonuclear bully itself, just like the
Apple it supports.

I think the punishment should fit the crime and in this case I'm not sure there
was even a crime on the part of Samsung. Even if there was, the whole process
should have been very fair and impartial and I don't think it was.

Hows this look? We have Samsung product(s) banned that were found non infringing
by a jury. It was banned prior to the trial and after the trial said it doesn't
infringe.

I think Americans are our own worst enemy. For a long time I thought our enemies
will be our saviors. No one really thinks China or Russia are going to ban goods
just because the U.S. wants them banned on the basis we had the idea first.

Thanks for the space for me to rant.







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In Google's Hands
Authored by: scav on Monday, September 03 2012 @ 08:52 AM EDT
Google could seriously start asserting that software is not
patentable subject matter. Every time. As defendant and as
amicus curiae, they need to keep hammering on this on every
case where it's even remotely relevant.

Because one of these days, if they keep it up, it will end
up in a judgement, and set a precedent. And those who would
attack FLOSS with patents would know that, and may want to
avoid doing anything that might bring the full wrath of
Google's legal team to bear on their preciousss patents.

Apple and MS would need a plan B. Apple could go back to
making good products that people want. I don't know what MS
would do.

---
The emperor, undaunted by overwhelming evidence that he had no clothes,
redoubled his siege of Antarctica to extort tribute from the penguins.

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Light at end of tunnel?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, September 04 2012 @ 09:48 PM EDT
The '604 patent, as an example, is not expressed using mathematics. Rather, it's
like something written on a bar napkin late at night. They keep using the term
'heuristic algorithm' but never give more than some vague examples of one. It's
like patenting an automobile power steering mechanism and describing it as
"you turn the steering wheel and move the wheels of the car with a
hydraulic mechanism in response to the movement of the steering wheel" and
leave it at that. It should have been thrown out as been too vague.

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