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Now that we understand each other
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 30 2012 @ 04:23 PM EDT

To the perspective of whether or not the Foreman should be adjudged based on his choice of words:

    We neither agree nor disagree. You've voiced your opinion he shouldn't, I've said "I dunno".
To the perspective on the value of the words in the patent vs the value of the images:
    We disagree to some extent, agree to some extent. I feel a lot of the words are superfluous and the images carry a lot more information. You've spoken to the value in the images, opinined that the words are equally valuable but have otherwise not spoken to the potential superfluousness of any of the wording or the value of any wording with the exception of the claim.
That wasn't so hard to reach an understanding once the points were actually touched upon.

RAS

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Only "ONE Claim" allowed in design patent
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 31 2012 @ 08:04 AM EDT
Just to be clear, the Apple design patent D'677 indicates that their design is valid for novelty items and toys as well. It is a well known fact that chalk board slates have existed with rounded rectangles before.

Also, you seem to be hung up only on the fact that there are words and one claim in the Design patent. No one here is disputing that fact. The only point of disagreement here is, a design patent protects the diagrams, not what is claimed in the statements. Statements just provide the context. Design patents is only and only about what is shown in the diagram that can be protected. A design patent can not write something in text and claim protection for it. And anyways, the words in the D'677 patent are literally what RSA and I have quoted multiple times. Can you care to quote a "non- trivial" sentence from the D'677 patent that can support your argument that words in a design patent make all the difference? Again, when I say "non-trivial" the intent is to find sentences of the quality of a Utility patent where invention is described in the claims and not just sentences saying, "we claim ornamental design of an electronic device" and "Fig 1 is front view".

When the foreman wants to compare the alleged products of Samsung with the design patent, he should have been looking at images and not statements. If the foreman was confused whether he was looking at a toy, a paper weight or an electronic device, then he was the wrong person for the job of a jury foreman.

-PR

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