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I wondered about 460...
Authored by: dio gratia on Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 07:57 PM EDT

You know, it's possible to reference a comment in a comment. Follow the hash mark link to a permanent link to the comment. This particular comment should be taken in light of the parent and contains at least one error. It shouldn't be used out of context as a point of controversy.

In this case the parent of the comment thread: Partial transcript of video

From Jury Instructions 29 through 31 (Docket Item 1903) you might expect the jurors were interpreting testimony in defense of patent infringement by arguments of invalidity. Without exposure to testimony and exhibits it may be just as likely that the jury foreman incorrectly recalled the patent number. If he didn't perhaps Apple presented prior art as a defense. Apple did move for summary judgement of non-infringement, including on the '460 patent. (This was denied for the '460 patent or we wouldn't be left wondering).

From the Docket we'd discover any applicable part of the record is sealed. We may never have the full story, both parties have striven to seal as much as possible. Without the entire record it's unlikely any suppositions can lead to accurate conclusions. Because Apple has won, it's unlikely we'll see various bits of the record unsealed. We do on the other hand gain a greater understanding of the case but find we need to rely on the experience of legal professionals to understand what the blank spots mean. We can also still look forward to transcripts of sessions in open court.

In general it's safe to say we need a greater understanding of the case to interpret the jury foreman's public comments, and if his comments contain errors we may not be able to follow them from start to finish based on the record even if it were available.

I don't know how anyone can get a better answer today than PJ without asking the two jury members who spoke out in public for clarification. You could wonder if that would actually be informative based on the difficulty we are having interpreting what is already public, in part because so much of the record isn't visible. When PJ is unsure she asks those legal professionals following the case. That doesn't include me and I Am Not A Lawyer. Anyone with a clearer understanding of the case is involved and likely can't speak to sealed evidence.

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