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PJ, your bias is pushing me away | 481 comments | Create New Account
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Mod Parent Up (n/t)
Authored by: mexaly on Tuesday, August 28 2012 @ 02:07 PM EDT
Plus 1

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IANAL, but I watch actors play lawyers on high-definition television.
Thanks to our hosts and the legal experts that make Groklaw great.

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Ok, bye. n/t
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 28 2012 @ 02:12 PM EDT
n/t

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PJ, your are correct
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 28 2012 @ 02:53 PM EDT
I disagree with you completely, and I have been reading
Groklaw since the beginning.

What Apple is doing is disgusting. They are patent trolling,
using inventions that they did NOT create. Again, Apple did
not create what it is being awarded.

Of course this will be ignored, and appeals to how its just
the legal system, or how you do business will be implored.

It's interesting to watch the psychology of people defend
Apple with such fervor and zeal, when we know what they are
doing is wrong and bad for technology.

Again, they did NOT invent what they are being awarded on.

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PJ, your bias is pushing me away
Authored by: PJ on Tuesday, August 28 2012 @ 04:15 PM EDT
Defending Linux and FOSS *is* why I started
Groklaw. If you missed that, you were not
here.

Nor was Groklaw a place ever that didn't
include my "ranting" about things that I
thought were important. This case is
important. To you, it's just how business
is. To me, it's disgusting that Apple
is trying to put the competition out of
business with patents of this type.
I think it's wrong to use the
courts to do that.

And somebody has to speak out about these
things. No one else was, so here I am, and
I see the conversation has now changed from
day one of the verdict (Yay! Apple crushed
Samsung! Google is next, blah blah). IF I
contributed to steering the conversation into
one worth having, from a policy perspective,
I'm proud of it.

So if you find that clashes with your concept
of what is acceptable, I can understand why
you don't wish to read Groklaw any more.
I'll bet you come back, though. You know why?
Because this is an honest site, written by
an honest voice, and that is mighty hard
to find these days. And who else will explain
the law to you? So take a break, come back,
and just read what you want to read.

I'm trying to educate the world, not entertain
you. New people come here all the time, so
they need to learn too. So I will repeat from
time to time. But this about Samsung is utterly
new. I've just pointed out that the attack on
Linux has taken a new and dangerous turn, using
design patents and trade dress.

This will be worse than patents, I think. SO
if you didn't notice that and think I'm stating
the same old stuff, you are either not reading
carefully enough, or I'm not writing clearly
enough, or you were not really here from the
beginning and are here now on a mission to
stir up angst among Groklaw's readers in the
hopes that they'll agree with you and leave.

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PJ, your bias is pushing me away
Authored by: DannyB on Tuesday, August 28 2012 @ 05:56 PM EDT
You talk about how Groklaw isn't what it was when it started.

Just try this edit:

s/Apple/SCO/
Freedom is important, the GPL is important, yes. But companies who don't "believe" are not evil, they're just acting in their own best interest -- that's what businesses do. Apple exists to make money and they're playing by the rules to try to hurt their competitors. It would be nice if companies only competed in the marketplace but, come on, we all know that's not how it works (and it has NEVER been that way).
Freedom is important, the GPL is important, yes. But companies who don't "believe" are not evil, they're just acting in their own best interest -- that's what businesses do. SCO exists to make money and they're playing by the rules to try to hurt their competitors. It would be nice if companies only competed in the marketplace but, come on, we all know that's not how it works (and it has NEVER been that way).

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The price of freedom is eternal litigation.

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Groklaw is not unbiased, but...
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, August 29 2012 @ 02:04 AM EDT
...does it claim to be anyway? Particularly given why the site was established
to begin with? Careful not to mistake the comments (which like any site seem to
trend towards rather extreme positions) with groklaw itself as well.

In any case it's a good counterpoint to sites quoting FM etc - read both sides
and decide for yourself.

I'd also suggest that "acting in their own best interest" and
"evil" are not mutually exclusive. Just because someone/thing is
acting in their own best interests doesn't mean or imply that it's not evil...
quite the opposite sometimes. Simply because you *can* do something and it
benefits you doesn't mean it's *right*.

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