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minor mistakes? they didn't even give a verdict on the right case. | 209 comments | Create New Account
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minor mistakes? they didn't even give a verdict on the right case.
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, August 27 2012 @ 08:42 PM EDT
jury instructions are read to them in court by the judge prior to deliberations

even beginning.

have anything to support the rest of your contentions?

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minor mistakes? they didn't even give a verdict on the right case.
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, August 28 2012 @ 09:20 AM EDT
Deciding on an overall winner and then retrofitting answers to 700 questions to fit that winner decision is not a minor mistake.

Declaring that a jury was incompetent based on a chain of inferences from a couple of second-hand soundbites from press interviews... that's not a minor mistake either.

You don't have the whole conversation - after the juror said "so we skipped it" then maybe they said "...and went back to it later" or maybe they said "...and just ticked 'no' because we couldn't be bothered." You simply don't know because those quotes have already been cherry-picked by a journalist trying to make a short, interesting article from a long and possibly not-too-interesting interview.

At most, these quotes raise a couple of questions that should be investigated through some reliable legal process: (a) did the foreman effectively give testimony to the jury and (b) did the Jury think they were supposed to decide punitive damages. You can't answer those based on a few words in a press cutting. That's assuming that either of those would be grounds for overturning a jury verdict: AFAIK you have to pretty much catch them red handed using a Ouija board or checking Facebook in the jury room for that.

This makes me like the UK 'what happens in the jury room stays in the jury room' law... If you are going to quiz a Jury verdict then it should be done with all the due process of a legal disposition, or not at all.

Also remember that the jury was not asked to decide whether the patents were invalid - they were asked to decide whether Apple/Samsung had presented sufficient evidence to show that they were invalid.. They weren't convinced ad no surprise: if you're a big patent holder like Apple or Samsung then you're not gonna be particularly eloquent about the evils of broad software patents except insofar as you can find a technical fault in the specific patent in question.

The world would be a nicer place without patents like Apples "double- tap-to-zoom" or Samsung's "use an App while playing music", but it was not this particular Jury's job to fix the patent system.

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