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Jurors in Apple v. Samsung Opt to Work an Extra Hour ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 04:14 PM EDT
In the "your guess" category: I think that the jury thinks they will
be able to be done by Friday. Of course, even if that is what they are thinking,
there is no guarantee it will actually happen.

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jury stuck on a table with rounded corners?
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 04:16 PM EDT
n/t

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Jurors in Apple v. Samsung Opt to Work an Extra Hour ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 04:16 PM EDT
Hopefully, this will turn out to be a good surprise for us. Though I'm not
optimistic about this one enough to expect anything good.

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corrections thread
Authored by: designerfx on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 04:32 PM EDT
post corrections here please.

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off topic thread
Authored by: designerfx on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 04:40 PM EDT
off topic comments here, please.

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Jurors in Apple v. Samsung Opt to Work an Extra Hour ~pj
Authored by: eric76 on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 04:43 PM EDT
If everyone on the jury was like me, the court would have a real problem. I
hate forms. Give me a form that complicated and I either find someone else to
fill it out or I tear it up.

For a couple of years in the late 1970s, I started on several occasions to apply
for the Peace Corps. In every case, I'd get about half way through the
application form and get so tired of filling it out that I'd tear it up and
throw it away. About a month later I'd go over to the office on campus where
they had the Peace Corps application forms, pick out another one, and start
filling it out.

If I was on the jury, the extra hour would likely be for the sole purpose of
tearing up the jury instructions into little bitty pieces.

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Jurors in Apple v. Samsung Opt to Work an Extra Hour ~pj
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 05:36 PM EDT
What happens if there is a hung jury?

If for example there is one Apple fanboy and one Apple hater on the jury then a
unanimous verdict may be impossible. Can the judge accept a majority verdict or
does the judge have to declare a mistrial and reschedule the trial for a new
hearing?

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Korea expects Friday
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 07:15 PM EDT
On Saturday, Korean time, a jury of nine Silicon Valley residents is expected to deliver a final verdict in the U.S. case, followed by Koh's sentence, which could be a landmark decision in the patent dispute.
Korea Times

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11am in Seoul tomorrow is 10pm in New York tonight
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 07:21 PM EDT
If the reported local time is correct, we'll have a Korean verdict tonight New
York time. Seoul is 13 hours ahead of New York this time of year, if I'm not
mistaken.

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Traffic?
Authored by: SpaceLifeForm on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 07:55 PM EDT
If you are going to stay until 4:30pm,
why not stay another hour instead of sitting
in the heavy traffic?

Not that it will be a whole lot better.


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You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.

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  • Traffic? - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 03:12 AM EDT
  • Traffic? - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 01:22 PM EDT
    • Traffic? - Authored by: Wol on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 03:34 PM EDT
Fast Determination
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 08:00 PM EDT

The way things seem to have been slanted, I suspect a fast jury determination is expected. Especially given a 109 page list of instructions. I suspect one of the best things we could see is that, the foreigners are guilty and owe 38 Trillion in damages. The appellate court won't see a problem, and it will go to the supremes who might see a problem. The supremes decide there is no problem, and the rest of the world then refuses to do business with the USA. The supremes decide there is a problem, and maybe the IP nonsense in the USA gets a little better.

Any improvement is going to take at least 20 years

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Jurors in Apple v. Samsung Unanimously Decide to Work an Extra Hour
Authored by: webster on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 08:46 PM EDT
.

They agree on something. They want to get it done and get on with their lives.
It must not be unpleasant yet so they are willing to spend the extra time. It
may never get unpleasant.
.

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Ticking the Boxes
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, August 23 2012 @ 09:21 PM EDT
Just suppose the jury made up their mind at the start, this whole
argument is childish and stupid, we will not allow either party
any of its claims. Then they have a mammoth problem in correctly
ticking the checkboxes beside the 600 odd questions to support
that initial premise.

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OT: Left Field
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 12:00 AM EDT
Did any of the lawyers in this case walk around the court room with a clipboard
in their hand.

Talk about prior art.

I'll go back to my corner now. Thanks.

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News Picks Thread
Authored by: artp on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 12:32 AM EDT
URL please.

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Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
sinks ?

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Comes Goes Here
Authored by: artp on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 12:34 AM EDT
See the link above "Comes v. MS" for details.

Post HTML transcriptions as text, or eamil to PJ.

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Userfriendly on WGA server outage:
When you're chained to an oar you don't think you should go down when the galley
sinks ?

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Our best hope
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 11:30 AM EDT
Our best hope is a similar verdict in the US case as the
Korean one..as than Apple would be forced to compete similar
to what happened in the early Macs.

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Verdict maybe?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 05:42 PM EDT
From Twitter, Mike Swift:
Mike Swift ‏@Swiftstories Looks like we have a verdict in #appsung. Still awaiting official word from the court however.

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  • Verdict maybe? - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 05:55 PM EDT
  • Live blog about it - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 05:59 PM EDT
  • Samsung looses - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 24 2012 @ 09:19 PM EDT
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