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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 2012 @ 08:18 AM EDT |
Sorry, the original ate a blockquote tag and mixed my
comment with my quoting
of PJ.
Quoth Florian:
"There was never any request to say please do
this or that," he said. "We agreed I would still express my
views and pick my
topics. I wrote all the blog posts
independently, and they did not see draft
posts."
Quoth PJ:
Pick from what list? His own?
Suggestions? It
reminds me of Microsoft's Get the Facts website. Remember
that? All those "independent" studies?
Really? This is paranoia.
The original quote from Florian
seems like a flat-out denial that Oracle in any
way
influenced either his choice of topics or content.
If you think
he's lying, OK. Say so. But to
suggest he's cleverly doublespeaking being
handed a list of
topics by Oracle, and only "choosing" in the sense of
picking
"which Oracle line to feed to the world" doesn't
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| Authored by: PJ on Saturday, August 18 2012 @ 08:48 AM EDT |
heh heh
I am being more than fair. He says he got all his
materials from Oracle's website. I'm a writer. If
I got all my materials from Oracle's website when
covering a lawsuit, I believe the topics would
suggest themselves. That might explain his
persistent predictions about Oracle's expected
success. You think?
He emailed me with a further denial, which I
dutifully posted, but really, get real.
He used Microsoft Outlook, incidentally, which
doesn't surprise me at all, given that he
takes Microsoft money too. And it is a very
amazing coincidence that he invariably predicts
Microsoft success too. What are the odds?
I put the stuff about Get the Facts because
folks would take Microsoft money to do a study,
then they'd say it was entirely independent in
its methodology, and invariably the study would
find Microsoft the best there is.
What are the odds?
So excuse me if my lip is curled. If there is no
connection between what Florian wrote about the
trial and the money, how come he didn't write
about the trial much until after he signed the
deal, and then there was suddenly, from that very
day onward, a flood of constant articles about it,
attacking Google, predicting its doom, etc.?
Riddle me that, Batman.
And we have an unwritten rule on Groklaw. If you
work for any of the companies that we are covering,
you need to say so if you comment favorably about
your company. Just saying.
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 2012 @ 10:33 AM EDT |
But, hey, nice try. Most people here know what flomo is. Some say pathological.
Some say opportunistic shill. Does it really matter?[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, August 18 2012 @ 11:01 AM EDT |
"All the information I received from Oracle itself was what the company
uploaded to its website on each trial day"
Is there a link to the Oracle web page which has the information FM used? I
poked around on the Oracle site and could not find the stuff FM used. Was the
web page he got his info from available for public view or did it require a
password?
I would like to compare his articles to what Oracle uploaded.
stage_v
from under the bridge[ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Charles888 on Saturday, August 18 2012 @ 01:00 PM EDT |
Anonymous,
You seem to be ok with a supposedly
unbiased journalist (or so he bills
himself) having a paid relationship
with the companies he writes about.
He broke the most basic trust
relationship with his readers.
Readers expect news and analysis
when on news sites, not PR and
advocating. He deserves all the
crap he gets, and more. People like
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