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The States Want A Website to Be Sufficient Presence for Taxes
Authored by: Wol on Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 09:13 AM EDT
VAT is *mostly* uniform within a country. Our standard VAT rate used to be 15%,
then it rose to 17.5%, and now 20%. That said, it's still one of the lowest.
Most countries are about 25%.

Then there are the exceptions. Items which have never had VAT on them are, of
course, 0%. However, once VAT is levied, it cannot be taken off, and cannot be
reduced below 5%, so now energy here is taxed at 5%. Other countries mostly tax
"essentials" at 10%. It varies.

Of course, the lack of border controls means tax rates can't be too far out of
sync due to the potential of cross-border shopping, and where we've got the
little countries (Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands etc) that means most of the
population has the economic incentive to "pop across" if there's much
of a differential ...

Cheers,
Wol

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Web sales taxes are coming. Let's get them right.
Authored by: Jim Olsen on Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 12:20 PM EDT

A single brick-and-mortar retailer need only deal with one state's revenue department and only a few subsidiary taxation districts, if any. It need only deal with one state's idiosyncratic definitions of taxable vs. non-taxable goods. Keeping up with just that can be a significant burden. Now multiply that burden by a factor of 50 states (and DC) and thousands of subsidiary taxation districts, and you begin to see the problem.

The sensible thing to do is say that states can levy sales tax on purchases via out-of-state websites, but that as applied to out-of-state vendors it must be a flat rate statewide and must conform to a standard definition of taxable goods. It must also make it clear that such a website presence does not subject the out-of-state vendor to the other state's labor and environmental laws. (The governments of states like California can pass absurd laws to govern their own people, but must not be allowed to push them onto the rest of the country.)

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Success in crime always invites to worse deeds. - Lord Coke

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The States Want A Website to Be Sufficient Presence for Taxes
Authored by: complex_number on Thursday, August 16 2012 @ 01:43 PM EDT
That is a nightmare.

When I rany my own company doing the VAT return every quarter took less than 10
minutes. Now it is all done online and is even quicker. If you aren't in the
trades that do significant 'cash-in-hand' work (eg builder, car mechanics) you
risk very little if you fiddle the VAT a bit. My accountant (now deceased) gave
me a whole heap of tips to bend the rules just a little bit in your favour. The
odds of a full VAT inspection are pretty small especially if you are in the
software business.

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Ubuntu & 'apt-get' are not the answer to Life, The Universe & Everything which
is of course, "42" or is it 1.618?

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