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Get over what - horse manure?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 03 2012 @ 12:10 AM EDT

"Apple DID reinvent the cell phone."

Are you telling me that Apple started from scratch and didn't stand on anyone
else's shoulders when they "reinvented the cell phone"?

I you are suggesting that, you're full of it and everyone knows it.

(I mean just because Apple refuses to pay Samsung for Samsung's patented
technology, doesn't mean they didn't steal it.)

Jobs publicly admitted he stole ideas. So just get over it.

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Get over what - horse manure?
Authored by: rsteinmetz70112 on Friday, August 03 2012 @ 01:19 AM EDT
Does Apple assembling prior technology into an admittedly elegantly beautiful
package constitute innovation?

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Rsteinmetz - IANAL therefore my opinions are illegal.

"I could be wrong now, but I don't think so."
Randy Newman - The Title Theme from Monk

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Get over what - horse manure?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 03 2012 @ 03:54 AM EDT
Apple DID reinvent the cell phone
In slang, yes, I'd agree, in the same way that Mercedes re-invented the car with the Smart car.

However, in terms of evolution, no they didn't. Looking at the mobile phones I've used and owned, they have evolved from monochrome text screens (which could play ASCII style games!) to colour pixel screens which could play basic arcade stlye games and connect to the internet, but only being able to "tab" between "buttons", to ones that head towards a GUI when accessing the internet with a cursor key moved mouse pointer to touch screens (pressure sensitive and capacitive) which use the screen as a graphics tablet (attached to a desktop computer).

It seems to match fairly accurately the evolution of computers from monochrome text screens with ASCII games to colour text screens, then low res screen and high res screens and the development of the GUI on the desktop; along with the development of mice and graphics tablets using mice/pen styli for input, along with touch screens (early methods being grids of IR across the front which a finger breaks, etc).

In between, there have been specialised miniaturised computers for specialised jobs - the personal organisers.

The evolution to a full touch screen phone is not really that surprising as the phone has taken on more of the desktop computer and the personal organiser, integrating more of the functions of each. Having full size keyboards or graphics pads attached would not be convenient and lead to finding a solution which comes to virtualising them on the screen and then finding some way to control a pointer - initially cursor keys would work, but the developemnt of small, cheap touch screens would lead to...

So to say Apple reinvented the mobile phone without mentioning all the intervening developments and evolution is being very economical with the truth.

And the graphics tablet is not a recent invention - back in the early '80s I was using one at Uni with a Tektronics storage display.

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Get over what - horse manure?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, August 03 2012 @ 01:45 PM EDT
Look up the handspring visor + phone attachment (link). Granted it wasn't color and was rather blocky, but it had the full touch screen and all the smartphone non-phone uses. I would argue that there is no difference between the visor + expansion vs iphone that is not a) superficial, b) explained by (cheaply) available consumer grade electronics (you might be able to make a case about the hand writing vs soft keyboards, but hand writing is still state of the art for Asian languages and there is a whole zoo of different keyboard programs on android), c) an obvious application of other improvement in tech (done by people other than apple).

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