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Dear Wol: You *must* grin. Suppose IBM knows they (and everyone) is paying too much? | 146 comments | Create New Account
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Dear Wol: You *must* grin. Suppose IBM knows they (and everyone) is paying too much?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, July 31 2012 @ 02:31 AM EDT
That's a load of hokum.
The group is operating under the laws created to shield the members of the group
from individual liability. The synthetic entities are made up from whole cloth
by the laws passed by the government. Any limitations of the entities 'rights'
(if such things exist) are in no way a limitation of the rights of the
individuals that make up that group.
If what you say was true, then corporations could vote.

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Dear Wol: You *must* grin. Suppose IBM knows they (and everyone) is paying too much?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, July 31 2012 @ 05:05 AM EDT
A corporation is ultimately just a group of people (Shareholders) banded together for some common purpose.

Shareholders? Don't you mean employees, the group of people banded together to do the actual work?

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Dear Wol: You *must* grin. Suppose IBM knows they (and everyone) is paying too much?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, July 31 2012 @ 06:09 AM EDT
The notion that the people lose in the agragate what they posses individually is nonsense
Tell that to all the investors in limited companies whereby the liability that the people possess individually when investing in a Sole Trader or Partnership is LOST when they aggregately invest together in a [limited] company.

I'm sure SCO would not have gone on for so long, and IBM could guarantee a much better expectation of recovering their costs if the personal liability of the people investing in SCO hadn't been lost as a result of joining together with other people in the investment.

It's NOT nonsense to lose something on aggregation that an individual possesses! Their personal liability has been lost! So why should the same not apply to an asset?

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Dear Wol: You *must* grin. Suppose IBM knows they (and everyone) is paying too much?
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, July 31 2012 @ 07:06 AM EDT
Shareholders loose a lot by banding together, not least of
which liability, which becomes limited.

But more to the point, since these are publicly traded
companies we're talking about, if patent license agreements
were open knowledge to the shareholders of these companies,
they'd necessarily be public information.

So, what was your point again?

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