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Authored by: DCFusor on Friday, July 27 2012 @ 02:24 PM EDT |
Though I've downloaded the newer ubuntus (is that what they measure?), there's
no way I'm upgrading to gnome3-unity.
Because it's a huge step backwards for me. I run desktops (lots of them). Most
of them have multiple screens managed by the Nvidia drivers. I don't need all
my customization options removed. I want my bars where *I* want them, my
tic-tack-toe buttons where I want them, I want every pixel I paid good money for
used by apps I use (and write). I do NOT need to "explore what my computer
can do" every time I boot it - it does what I told it to do, and what's on
there is there because I put it there, period.
This idea of all opsys trying to become "one size fits all, but mostly pads
with touch interfaces" is stupid chasing the money after Apple's success
with the iPad. Following, not leading, in other words. Windows Metro is also
getting terrible reviews - for all the same reasons. It's just a dumb idea, as
if there aren't enough programmers on earth to handle two main streams of opsys
development. Rubbish.
Has someone forgotten you can write drivers to abstract different hardware to
look the same to apps? You know, why can't this be done for keyboard/mouse vs
touchscreen? Has this approach not worked for just about everything else under
the sun? Did all the intelligent systems design guys die? (I already know -
I'm one of them and not dead).
And no, mate doesn't work right etc etc etc - I really want to upgrade, but just
can't find any way to have things as nice as they are already. Puleese - no
multi inch icons I can't even move from the *center* of a dual screen setup, you
gotta be kidding.
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Authored by: J.F. on Friday, July 27 2012 @ 02:57 PM EDT |
That's probably the fault of Unity. It's rather ironic in that it does the
opposite of its name and drives factions apart rather than bring them together.
Until Gnome ditches it, or Ubuntu moves away from Gnome, it will continue to
lose followers.
Of course, I've been using Xubuntu for years now. XFCE is much better than
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Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 27 2012 @ 09:47 PM EDT |
How about giving Distowatch's side of the story on this? At the top of the
page where they explain their counters they complain about:
... a continuous abuse of the counters by a handful of undisciplined individuals
who had confused DistroWatch with a poll station.
And by "a
poll station" they mean ballot box stuffing.
The DistroWatch
Page Hit Ranking statistics (...) correlate neither to usage nor to quality and
should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply
show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch.com was accessed
each day, nothing more.
So, your source of numbers
(Distrowatch) seems to directly contradict your conclusions.
However,
there is a respectable source for genuine stats, the Wikimedia Traffic
Analysis (web stats from Wikipedia). Here's what they say they saw at their
servers for the month of June (in millions of page hits): Ubuntu 990 M, and Mint
12.5 M. In other words, nearly 80 times more people went to Wikipedia using
Ubuntu than using Mint. In fact, Mint is behind Fedora (in second place at 28.6
M), SUSE (25.5 M), and Debian (15.6 M). It's only slightly ahead of Mandriva
(10.3 M). The Ubuntu numbers by the way don't include Kubuntu (5.3 M) or Xubuntu
(30 k).
So, real world numbers seem to show that Mint is in 5th place,
and in fact that Ubuntu has an enormous (34 times) lead over even the second
place distro (Fedora).
If you happen to like Linux Mint, well fine. We
have multiple distros for a reason, so use the one you like. However, ballot box
stuffing at Distrowatch does not translate into real world popularity. I keep
seeing more or less the same post at multiple sites promoting the Mint
distrowatch rankings, but debunking these numbers over and over again doesn't
seem to make much of an impression on the person doing it.
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