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Sometimes, the nature of a joke is in extraordinarily poor taste | 179 comments | Create New Account
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"Twitter joke" appeal granted
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 27 2012 @ 10:49 AM EDT
Schneier. Like Schneider, hold the D.

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Sometimes, the nature of a joke is in extraordinarily poor taste
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 27 2012 @ 01:48 PM EDT

And sometimes, in a situation that's very serious, an inappropriate joke can far too easily - and appropriately - be taken in the same serious tone as the situation demands.

You state:

with the *whole* rest of the orchestra
as though that should somehow change the equation. But really: how can you - as Security who doesn't know anyone in that orchestra - be absolutely sure the rest of the orchestra isn't just as much a potential targeted victim? Is it really outside the imagination to think a single member of the orchestra might have "taken ill" and been replaced by a terrorist?

Personally, I think anyone making any kind of terrorist type joke in a setting that has more then just close friends and family should be taken in the same serious context the nature of the subject demands.

RAS

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Violin case gangster.
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 27 2012 @ 03:09 PM EDT
That story was broadcast in the UK on the BBC's Airport series about Heathrow -
a man had flown in from Chicago and when asked about his violin case said, as a
joke, it contained a gun; UK customs have no sense of humour, he was refused
entry and had to fly back to USA. (can't remember date, sorry)

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"Twitter joke" appeal granted
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 27 2012 @ 06:56 PM EDT
My memory ain't what it used to be so take this with as much salt as appropriate
...

But I seem to remember in the United States in the late '60s or early '70s (the
*first* tightening up of airport security after a series of hijackings?) that
people were specifically warned *not* to make jokes about such things in/around
the secure area of an airport. I think it may have actually have been illegal
to make such jokes. If my memory is remotely correct then this type of
"going overboard" is not really a new thing. Nor am I sure it is
unreasonable.

That said, I think there *are* aspects of U.S. airport security that are highly
questionable and aspects in general of the "war on terrorism" that are
highly troubling.

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"Twitter joke" appeal granted
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 27 2012 @ 08:12 PM EDT
Think there are strong cultural differences. Even between for
instance Belgium and the Netherlands. And you would not have
joked with an security officer in the Soviet Union either.
Maybe those differences could be linked to what is left of the
almost absolute authority like it existed until some 60 years
ago. Also somewhat reflected in the view of God or the role of a
father.
Could be that using that kind of authority and even causing some
fear could still be a technique that can produce some results.
But in other situations you would fast be seen as somebody who
misses the capacity to nuance, who can't put things in
perspective, somebody who tries to look big to hide his
weaknesses.
Somebody who shows that he understands the joke, that
he can see the point of view of the other person, that he can
make the difference between unwillingness and just a joke, and
still continue to do his job would impress a lot more. There are
situations, like personal drama's, where humor is not
appropriate, but from outside it is hard to see why this should
be such a situation.

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