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Allen v. World - Defendants Seek Summary Judgment on Issue of Indefiniteness ~ mw | 170 comments | Create New Account
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Pages 34-36 of 4/25/11 transript
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 04:29 PM EDT
This is what was said earlier, from the relevant parts of pages 34-36 in the transcripts of the April 25, 2011 hearing:
MR. NELSON: Your Honor, there is one actually minor issue that I believe the parties are in agreement on. The defendants have asked plaintiff to agree on a briefing schedule on a summary judgment motion of indefiniteness on a couple of the claims terms. That would add about five pages to each side's respective briefing for the Markman briefing. And then defendants would get two pages each on each of the two issues, and a reply. We have no objection to that order. I think we are in the process of finalizing an agreed motion on that point. But if the court would entertain something orally, we would be happy to do it orally. Or if the court would like to see it by paper, it will be filed within the next couple of days, if not before.

THE COURT: Essentially the bottom line is, you want to add more pages?

MR. KREEGER: The idea is, your Honor, often the courts -- I don't know if your Honor -- In the course of claim construction you come to the view that one of the terms is "indefinite." The question is: What do you do with that? Some courts then invite a second round of summary judgment briefing.

THE COURT: I am not likely to do that.

MR. KREEGER: Our proposal was to give the court a summary judgment motion, along with the claim construction briefing. So if you agree with us on this, it has the potential to save work. If you find these terms indefinite, then the whole patents go away. That was the rationale for raising it, along with claim construction.

THE COURT: I am all for saving work. I am pretty much against adding pages.

MR. KREEGER: Should we not submit the motion?

THE COURT: You would have to convince me that you need extra pages for this particular issue. To be perfectly honest, if all eleven parties are going to write to me, think of the thousands of pages you can come up with.

MR. KREEGER: Your Honor, we might be able to work out an arrangement where this doesn't have pages, if that's the court's concern, present it without increasing the pages.

THE COURT: That would be nice.

MR. KREEGER: We will go back to that. Anything else?
That's when the defendants supposedly said and didn't say the stuff Interval is talking about. I wouldn't interpret it that way. For example, offering something in the next couple of days count as an early deadline?

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Interval on the back foot
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 04:49 PM EDT
Defendants offer that the patents are invalid under 35 U.S.C. ยง 112:1
Interval does not have to answer that here, but it scrabbles for
procedural points as to why indefiniteness should not be introduced,
even citing a case which will require them to find some facts
to support their non-indefiniteness rebuttal.

Have they smelled the wind changing?

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Allen v. World - Defendants Seek Summary Judgment on Issue of Indefiniteness ~ mw
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 04:50 PM EDT
... displaying images "in an unobtrusive manner" and in a way that "does not distract a user."
Well if something pops up in front of me that I didn't ask for, that's both obtrusive and distracting, so the patent covers something that's impossible to do. Which makes the patent(s) invalid. If I asked for 'it', then it's not obtrusive or distracting. (Unless 'it' pops up behind something else and then what's the point if you can't see it?) J

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Corrections here
Authored by: The Cornishman on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 05:22 PM EDT
Please indicate the nature of the correction in the title of
your post, e.g. Errer -> Error

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Off-topic thread
Authored by: The Cornishman on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 05:24 PM EDT
For matters which do not involve being sued by Interval
LLC... if you can think of any

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Newspicks thread
Authored by: The Cornishman on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 05:27 PM EDT
For discussion of newspick items, please link to the newspick
item in your post, since they scroll off the screen pretty
quickly.

There is a guide to making clickable links, just below the
Post a Comment window, in red.

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COMES transcripts
Authored by: The Cornishman on Saturday, July 14 2012 @ 05:29 PM EDT
Please collect transcripts of COMES exhibits here.

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