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Nokia stockholders should have known better | 174 comments | Create New Account
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Please don't be silly
Authored by: cjk fossman on Thursday, July 12 2012 @ 11:34 PM EDT
That's just a different version of the US tobacco companies'
defense, which goes something like, "you all knew smoking was
bad for you all along and you knew we were lying about it, so
don't blame us for your problems."

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  • Not silly - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 13 2012 @ 03:28 PM EDT
Since when is "you should have known we were scumbags" a defence?
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 13 2012 @ 06:15 AM EDT
While yeah, Novell were idiots if they didn't expect MS to go after them...
isn't it irrelevant here? "We were well known for our abusive business
tactics so you should have known" doesn't sound like a particularly solid
rebuttal of Novell's claims?

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That was not what I'm was saying
Authored by: PJ on Friday, July 13 2012 @ 07:58 AM EDT
That's a point of view that doesn't match how
law works. Somebody has to win if somebody
loses. You can have a Posner decision where
neither side wins, but if someone loses, there
has to be a winner.

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Nokia stockholders should have known better
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 13 2012 @ 03:02 PM EDT

With all Microsoft's history and background, with Elop coming from the upper echolon of Microsoft.... Nope, the stockholders shouldn't have any kind of case against Elop for mismanagement in selecting Microsoft as their only platform.

Just to be clear: the above is how I understand you're saying:

I'm not at all sure that Novell deserves to win anymore
Sorry... I disagree. It's got nothing to do with "deserving to win". This isn't a friendly game of baseball.

This is a situation where entity A unlawfully harmed entity B.

As a result:

    A: Entity A should be punished
    B: Entity B should be compensated in some way to ease that harm that was caused even if Entity B can never be made whole.
Taken in the context of a serial killer, would you honestly say:
    Look, everyone can read the papers. Every Paper for the last two months is saying the serial killer is targeting every blond male over the height of 6"5'. On a daily basis. It's that dumb blonde's fault for going out for a walk alone. His family doesn't deserve closure with regards the serial killer being caught and sentenced.
Do you really, honestly, believe that?

I certainly hope you don't. I hope that there's a more reasonable explanation like - perhaps - negative emotions you have directed at Novel are speaking for you.

It's a real pity when someone actually believes the victim deserved to be a victim.

Could Novel have done something else? Absolutely. Should they have? Wiser minds that know Microsoft think so. But does that detract the fact that Micrsofot is responsible for the harm caused to Novell? Absolutely not.

RAS

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  • Oh, come on! - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 13 2012 @ 04:01 PM EDT
    • Oh, come on! - Authored by: PJ on Friday, July 13 2012 @ 05:43 PM EDT
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