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Authored by: nsomos on Thursday, July 05 2012 @ 09:14 PM EDT
Parent writes ...

"A criminal carrying a gun is far more likely to pull that weapon
on someone he believes unarmed than on someone who is
likely armed themselves."

I've had personal experience that I believe confirms this.

Sometime around August 1981 or so, I had an apartment on W65th street in
Clevelands near west side. I was at that time the chief engineer for Systems
General which was at that time located on West 9th street in 'settlers landing'
in a building owned by Higbee Development Corp. For some reason, my friend Carl,
and I were in the office around 2-3am and were going to walk to my apartment to
crash. (Busses don't often run at that hour.) (Why and how we were there, is
another story.) I think we waited till about 3am before leaving, on the theory
that the bar crowd exodus would have died down by then. We paused on the
Detroit-Superior high level bridge to look at the Cuyahoga river. There was some
vessel going beneath and it was fun to look at the operation of the various
moveable bridges down below.

As Carl and I were looking over the side of the bridge, a person approached from
the west side of the bridge. This person engaged us in conversation, and claimed
to work as a security guard for Cook United. Carl had worked as a security guard
also, and had taken a 120 hour course. They exchanged what passes as security
guard small-talk. This person asked Carl and myself, if we owned guns. We
responded affirmatively. (Round about now, any normal sane person, might have
warning bells going off in their head.) He went on to ask, if we happened to
have our guns *WITH* us?? We said we did not. Our visitor was better prepared
than ourselves, as he pulled out *HIS* gun, and said something like "Well,
I've got MINE right HERE!".

(His weapon was a Smith and Wesson K frame with a blue steel finish.
We did get a real good look at it.)

I am convinced that if Carl or I had claimed to be armed,
we would have been left alone.

I got to testify before a grand jury and
Harry Bradley Jr later pleaded guilty to
2911.01 AGGRAVATED ROBBERY

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Attack, Counterattack, and Initiative
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 06 2012 @ 06:19 AM EDT
And that has been borne out by studies on "gun free" university
campuses across the USA, compared to the "guns allowed" university
campuses.

And crime rates compared to concealed carry lisencing requirements across the
USA.

And Switzerland.


If criminals have a high chance of being shot while committing crime, then they
won't take the risk *as often*. They aren't stupid.

As for the "crimes of passion" there's no way to stop those by taking
away weapons, they'd use a kitchen knife if that's the most lethal thing to
hand.

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