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Zero length
Authored by: PolR on Wednesday, July 04 2012 @ 04:24 PM EDT
Yes, mathematically a line segment of length zero is a point. But I can
understand why in this context the judge will want to make a difference. The
action of a user tapping instead of sliding is different and so is the code of
the program that responds to it. Despite the mathematical argument, a tap is not
a slide.

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Frank Zappa
Authored by: mexaly on Wednesday, July 04 2012 @ 06:01 PM EDT
"'Nothing is what I want,' a true Zen saying."

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A line, by definition, has infinite length.
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, July 04 2012 @ 07:51 PM EDT
I'm seeing a lot of confusion stemming from confusing a line (as referenced by
His Honor) with a line SEGMENT. (Polr being the exceptional poster. As usual.
=)

A line can't have zero length, but a line segment can. Look it up if you need a
cite.

Disclaimer: I am not a geometrist. If you need a geometrical opinion that
matters, consult a licensed professional.

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Zero length
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, July 04 2012 @ 09:42 PM EDT
I never said anything about infringing or not infringing, just a mathematical
fact. On the other side, this just shows the little mat a lot of people
understands.

And talking about sofware patents and math, I remember a lot of talk about that
topic. If you really want to understand how software is math, just read this
book:

Computability: an introduction to recursive function theory, Nigel Cutland.

SALUDOS
ALVARO

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One of the many reasons why Groklaw is so great!
Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, July 05 2012 @ 07:39 AM EDT
This thread, where we get into a discussion (with comedy comments that are still
right!) about lines, points, orders of infinity, what distance really means...

And this is done with the general assumption that everyone will understand
everything that's said, and helpful links provided, just for the asking, for
anyone who doesn't understand.

The whole world should be like this.

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Zero length
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 06 2012 @ 09:49 AM EDT
Another idea: the function f(x)=(x^2-4)/(x-2) does not exists in x=2, therefore is non-continuous. Of course the measure of the discontinuity is zero.

that function reduces to f(x) = (x+2)(x-2)/(x-2) = x+2.

so, no, it's not non-continuous, and does exist at x=2.

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  • Zero length - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 06 2012 @ 10:11 AM EDT
    • Zero length - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, July 06 2012 @ 11:22 AM EDT
    • Zero length - Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, July 09 2012 @ 01:00 PM EDT
Oh my god! Apple has a patent on the wheel!
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, July 07 2012 @ 08:30 PM EDT
A zero length line is a point. A zero radius wheel is also a point. Oh my god, Apple has got a patent on the rotate to move wheel concept, and that's without taking into account Apple's design patents.

"I think we'll be suing General Motors over this flagrant infringement of our IP" said an Apple spokesman. "Kelloggs is another one of our targets" he added, "I mean how dare Kelloggs sell cornflakes in - well, a box shaped box that geometrically resembles the iBox, an advanced version of the box shape and flattened box shape invented and pioneered by Apple in the Mac Mini, iPhone and iPad". He added "we have already successfully sued Samsung over this and we hope Kelloggs will quickly - anybody can make technology or produce compelling contents to put into a box, but only Apple is capable of inventing and producing a box shaped thing like this".

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