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As I have said before
Authored by: pem on Friday, July 06 2012 @ 05:12 PM EDT
One problem happens if Canonical updates the bootloader and a court rules this
update is part of the warranty offered by the hardware manufacturer.

And the simpler problem is just whether or not Canonical can tell the OEM
"Don't worry about it. Nothing you do will trigger any warranty obligation
under GPL3 because the bootloader isn't under GPL3."

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Great example!
Authored by: jbb on Friday, July 06 2012 @ 10:57 PM EDT
According to the logic used by Shuttleworth and others, one malicious person could force Debian to release all their private signing keys, which is absurd. The malicious person could use a non-GPL boot loader that uses secure boot and boots into a locked-down version of Linux that only uses SecureApt to fetch and install updates. This would put Debian in the same position Shuttleworth is trying to avoid. The same logic Shuttleworth uses would say that this malicious person could then force Debian to release their private signing keys.

If we extend Shuttleworth's logic further, then one single, malicious individual could prevent all distributors and creators of GPL-3 software from signing their code. These absurdities all stem from imagining that people upstream can be held liable for actions taken by other people downstream.

BTW: I don't understand why warranties would be involved at all but in any case the simple, easy, and obvious answer to all of these potential complaints is for the OEM to update their BIOS so it allows the owner to use custom keys and/or allows the owner to bypass Secure Boot entirely. Since the problem was entirely created by the OEM, the OEM is responsible for fixing it.

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