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The only winner from Obama Care is YOU !.
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 12:24 PM EDT
Oh, and in case I sound bitter, if Obamacare actually provided health insurance
off those taxes that it enforces, rather than just eating the money, then it
might of actually done some good.

Instead it just funds private companies. (And yes, the IRS is a private company.
Yay Capitalism?)

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The state exchanges?
Authored by: hardmath on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 12:26 PM EDT
The no prior condition exclusions? (Already in effect for
kids)

The no lifetime limits?

The minimum benefit requirements, including wellness visits?

Of course this only pertains to people who want coverage, I
admit.

regards, hm


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prover." -- Richard O'Keefe

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The only winner from Obama Care is YOU !.
Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 01:29 PM EDT
> People can be sent to jail for not paying for "insurance to
live".

Huh? It's a tax, not a mandate, and no one is sent to jail for anything. You
can still foolishly choose not to have insurance, but there will be a tax hit
for doing so, but only if you have taxes to pay; if you tax bill is already zero
you won't have to pay anything.

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The only winner from Obama Care is YOU !.
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, June 30 2012 @ 01:19 AM EDT
My understanding is that when the Affordable Health Care Act was passed it
included no provision for criminalization and prosecution of not paying the
penalty tax. Because, to do so would place greater burden on those who are in
need of medical care. It only allows the IRS to collect the penalty tax from the
taxes an individual owes to the government.

stage_v

from under the bridge

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The only winner from Obama Care is YOU !.
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, June 30 2012 @ 09:59 AM EDT
How does the average american win again?
Perhaps like this [PDF]:

Health spending accounted for 17.6% of GDP in the United States in 2010, down slightly from 2009 (17.7%) and by far the highest share in the OECD, and a full eight percentage points higher than the OECD average of 9.5%. Following the United States were the Netherlands (at 12.0% of GDP), and France and Germany (both at 11.6% of GDP).

The United States spent 8233 USD on health per capita in 2010, two-and-a-half times more than the OECD average of 3268 USD (adjusted for purchasing power parity). Following the United States were Norway and Switzerland which spent over 5250 USD per capita. Americans spent more than twice as much as relatively rich European countries such as France, Sweden and the United Kingdom.

You can save money by making some things a cooperative effort, and this is one of them. From all the opinions I read about this I get the impression that many Americans see this as government meddling and reducing freedom of choice. But freedom of choice is always limited: if you block a cooperative effort you deny people the right to choose for the benefits that system offers.

I don't know the details of Obamacare. The Dutch system works like this. There is a base package all health insurers are obliged to offer, and they have to accept everyone for this. They primarily compete on price here, although some insurers make price deals with hospitals and specialists and as a result limit your choice. Solution: choose a different insurance company. On top of that they can offer additional packages, and there they can compete on price and contents, and they can refuse people. Health insurance is not the same for everyone as a result, but there is a common basis that is guaranteed and adequate.

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