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Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer

Authored by: complex_number on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 09:42 AM EDT

Very well argued indeed Mr Dundee.

The amount of findamentally wrong information that has been spread in the US
about how the systems in countries with Universal Healthcare work is IMHO
considerable.

I was lucky to be able to right a few of these misconceptions on a recent visit.

If it weren't for the universal healthcare I received three years ago I wouldn't
have been able to make that visit. Just think of how nice it would be for you to
be able to start getting treatment without waiting for the Insurance company to
make up its mind on how much your life is worth? A disease/condition can quickly
turn from treatable into fatal if the correct and often expensive treatment is
not given in a very timely manner.

---
Ubuntu & 'apt-get' are not the answer to Life, The Universe & Everything which
is of course, "42" or is it 1.618?

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Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer - Authored by: Wol on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 12:00 PM EDT
Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer - Authored by: PJ on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 06:52 PM EDT
- Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer - Authored by: Crocodile_Dundee on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 10:47 PM EDT
  - Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer - Authored by: PJ on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 11:35 PM EDT
    - Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, June 30 2012 @ 07:41 AM EDT

Some raised or born outside the US...

Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 09:57 AM EDT

have trouble understanding the resistance to universal health care here. Agreed,
there are some political aspects in the current tug of war but I would argue
that the problem is mostly cultural. Same with gun rights. There is a block of
some kind for the re-evaluation of fundamental issues based on changing
circumstances. Your point is well taken regarding the appointment of our judges.
They do have a tendancey to reflect the views of the admin at the time of
appointment. Just the way the structure works in a top down system. I live with
a Brit who thinks we are all daft and constantly refers to what other people are
doing in the rest of the world. I say it has no bearing here. We are one of a
kind with little history as a nation compaired to Europe so it is gonna take a
while to catch up. Not in my life time, however.

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Some raised or born outside the US... - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 02:12 PM EDT
- On the way to Greece... - Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 03:18 PM EDT

Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer

Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 29 2012 @ 06:27 PM EDT

Just three points.

First, there's a difference between good universal health care and the slapdash collection of political compromises passed at the last minute by a lameduck congress.

As speaker Pelosi famously said, "We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it."

Second, the Constitution is the legal framework of the US. I seems to me when you have to squint and use legal doubletalk to justify what you want to do rather than what you know you should do, it indicates an ethical shortcoming.

Third, there's no Constitutional issue with the States implementing Universal Health Care, we have it in Massachusetts. If someone doesn't like it, they can move to New Hampshire or Maine, it's called freedom.

If Universal Health Care is so great, why aren't other states implementing it? The are no, none, zero Constitutional issues with any State implementing Universal Health Care.

Seriously, I thought at least California would implement some form of Universal Health Care for its citizens.

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Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer - Authored by: PJ on Saturday, June 30 2012 @ 12:03 AM EDT
- Having ObamaCare - Maybe This Is Only Funny To A Lawyer - Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, June 30 2012 @ 07:54 AM EDT

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