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Why should Linux move to the desktop?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 25 2012 @ 11:41 AM EDT
In the mid 1970's we were supposed to be moving to the paperless office.

I, for one, am still waiting to see it happen.

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Why should Linux move to the desktop?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 25 2012 @ 11:45 AM EDT
Eh? Increased cooling needs? Really...

I am increasingly of the opinion that for most people the CPU power that we has
is already enough for their needs. Forget the needs of gamers, they are a
minority. I'm talking about the vast majority of users in the world.

The CPU and RAM are already more than good enough. Throw in some decent sized
SSD's and everything suddently get a whole deal faster. More than fast enough
for 99% of users.

My Dev Desktop (i7, 24Gb Ram, 6Tb of HDD) does not take 5 minutes to startup
even with a pretty large Oracle DB that gets autostarted at boot. As a
professional developer that system is more of an exception that a rule.

Lets look at a small desktop device.
Take the Apple Mac Mini. you can get an i7 powered unit that will take 16gb of
Ram and about a TB of disk. All in a really small and almost silent package.

on the whole, many of your comments are well out of date.


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Why should Linux move to the desktop?
Authored by: JamesK on Monday, June 25 2012 @ 11:47 AM EDT
I also have a tablet and smartphone (both Android) and there are still things I
prefer to do on the desktop. There are plenty of apps that benefit from a large
display and full size keyboard.

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Why should Linux move to the desktop?
Authored by: greed on Monday, June 25 2012 @ 11:49 AM EDT
What's a desktop? I've been using Linux on the desktop for 11 years
now--instead of AIX or Solaris.

Why does a desktop have to be slow to boot? Why does it have to be massively
power-hungry? There's nothing stopping someone bolting an ARM-based
Linux-running machine to the VESA bracket on a LCD screen. (OK, I've only done
that with Intel Atom-based machines, but it's really handy.)

With a cut-down-for-the-purpose OS, those machines come up to "user
mode" fast--and these are diskless machines that boot over the network.
From local flash disk, they're unbelievably fast to get started.

Apple's got most people's "desktop" needs covered in the Mini: same
power as a laptop, but with a separate keyboard and mouse and screen. If you
can make it portable, you can also make it permanent.

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Why should Linux move to the desktop?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 25 2012 @ 12:36 PM EDT
I'm sitting behind a 17'' monitor, typing on a keyboard and using a Wacom tablet
(an old fashioned one that doesn't contain a pc) and a mouse. I like it that
way, laptops are not ideal for typing and tablet computers obviously aren't
either.

The computer my keyboard, mouse and monitor are connected to is not clunky. It's
slightly larger than a 3.5'' HDD (and smaller than a 3.5'' HDD in an external
case), passively cooled and very silent. This is powerful enough for most of the
everyday tasks I use computers for, except for image processing, for which I
have one of those systems in a clunky case. It's headless, lives in a cupboard
where I don't hear it too much, I access it using ssh with X forwarding, and it
only burns energy when I need it. Both systems boot quickly, nowhere near the
5-10 minutes you mention. The clunky one well within a minute, the desktop one I
think in just over a minute, including the bios and bootloader delays.

It can be quite different from what you're used to. The concept of a pc on a
desk is not the only form factor anymore, but it has its uses and it won't die
any time soon. The clunky software that causes your complaints hopefully is
dying in its current form.

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I Love my *REAL* keyboard and my dual large screens! (n/t)
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 25 2012 @ 12:41 PM EDT
n/t

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Why should Linux move to the desktop?
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, June 25 2012 @ 02:44 PM EDT
The desktop is not "yesterday's technology". What is dated is the
idea that a general-purpose computer is the appropriate way for casual users to
interact with the digital world. Hence, folks are using smartphones and tablets
for communications and web browsing.

The desktop is just settling back to a more appropriate role as a device for
programmers, video editors, and in general creators as opposed to consumers.

I suspect that the number of Windows desktops will go way down in the next
decade, the number of Linux desktops will stay about the same, and thus Linux
"market share" will go up - not because Linux becomes more popular,
just that desktops will increasingly be just for programmers and other geeks.

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Linux doesn't move, it's inanimate
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 26 2012 @ 01:00 AM EDT
People install it and uninstall it.
It hasn't got legs and can't go anywhere.
It has no volition and what we are really talking about is people making
decisions.
Chris B

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Five to Ten Minute Boot Time???
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 26 2012 @ 02:20 AM EDT
If your computer takes 5 to 10 minutes to boot, either your computer is very old or you are using the wrong software!

I have only one system that comes anywhere close to that. It is a 166 Mz Pentium I running RH 8.0. It takes about 3.5 minutes to boot. My other systems all take less then one minute or just slightly more.

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Why should Linux move to the desktop?
Authored by: globularity on Tuesday, June 26 2012 @ 04:26 AM EDT
Linux is already on the desktop has been on mine for over a decade. The best
thing about a linux desktop is you only need to change what you feel like. Find
an application which you like, then use it as long as you like not as long as
somebody else decides you should

The desktop is not outdated, it has more screen real estate than any other
platform, better data entry by a long shot and it does not follow you around.
Computers like telephones are good to get away from on a regular basis.

10 minute boot up! Wrong OS and or poor configuration An XP virtual machine
boots in less than 10 seconds the real machine boots in 45 seconds on 8 year old
hardware if properly configured 2K is a bit faster.

Linux with a tailored kernel is quicker and an SSD speeds the process up
considerably over these values.

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