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| Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 04:53 PM EDT |
Wow, great rant. Of course it won't be read where it should be.
I have seen myself that Nokia phones are still selling well in China,
except the Windows versions, they just sit there unloved by
customers or salesdudes alike.. [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 04:06 AM EDT |
| This is typical marketing talk ... bla bla bla .. no
substance.
If you need
to know the truth about Nvdia and their Business
practices read this Article:
Link.
As of now no one needs Nvidia Graphics anymore because INTEL
Native HD Graphics
are powerfull enough and very well
supported under Linux. I think thats why
Linus showed Nvidia
the finger.
I personally got burned by one of Nvidia's
faulty Graphics
Chips and that was definately the last time I ever purchased
a
Nvidia product.
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| Authored by: sproggit on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 07:16 AM EDT |
It is interesting to see that nVidia's PR went to the trouble of providing what
I'd guage to be their best attempt at a placating response to Linus' words. Here
are some quick observations I think worth making here.
First:
nVidia are a commercial, for-profit company. If anyone in the Linux community
believes that nVidia doesn't participate sufficiently [i.e. by open-sourcing
their drivers] then broadly 2 choices exist... 1. Don't buy nVidia GPUs; 2.
Become more active and vocal in attempting to positively encourage nVidia
to see the light.
I don't believe that attacking nVidia will help. I
totally understand and respect the position of anyone not happy with nVidia's
stance, but: just walk away.
Second: we can't consider nVidia
in isolation here. When Creative delivered the X-Fi chipset as a replacement of
the Audigy family, no Linux drivers were offered, no cooperation was given. GKH
had to start from scratch with the Drivers Team to reverse-engineer support for
the X-Fi. When Adaptec produce their SCSI cards, several [including some of the
best ones] do not offer any form of Linux support. In short, this problem isn't
unique to nVidia or the GPU space.
We probably need to be a bit more
pragmatic in our outreach programs and do this across a broader hardware
community.
Third: there is a point of commonality to all of
these issues: Microsoft Windows. Now, I cannot say with any evidence or
confidence either way what the relationship is between Microsoft and these
hardware companies.
What I do know [because it is a matter of record]
is that Microsoft offers "shared marketing funding" to some companies and places
logos like "Designed for Windows 7" or similar in advertisements for hardware.
Microsoft contributes to that marketing effort in financial terms, but it is not
clear how this works down at a deatailed level.
A question that may be
relevant of this audience would be if anyone can clarify where a line would
exist between a company such as Microsoft offering to share advertising costs
with a hardware vendor with a "Designed for Windows" style marketing program
[which may be innocent and legal] and the offer or witholding of such funding as
a carrot/stick with which to induce hardware companies to not support
Linux.
I am not sure which statute would be violated if a company
offered financial inducements in that way, but I am pretty sure that Microsoft
would be aware of legal implications and be very careful to ensure that anything
they did remained "above board"...
At the same time, look what
happened when Barnes & Noble took issue with the Microsoft/Nokia alliance...
rather than answer the discovery requests, Microsoft settled with a
multiple-hundreds-of-millions-of-dollar injection of cash into B&N... [So in
some specific cases it may be true that there is substance to the accusations
being raised].
But to get back on point:
Understand
that people may be mistrustful or disappointed with nVidia, but... they are a
commercial company selling hardware. If you don't like their ethical conduct,
don't buy their product.
The primary responsibility of a company is to
it's shareholders. The only way to get a company's attention is to grab it by
the bottom line [if you'll forgive the parlance]. [ Reply to This | Parent | # ]
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| Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 01:38 PM EDT |
PJ: I believe they call that vaporware, a "product" announced before
it's available, so you won't buy the competitors' actually available products
and will instead wait for Microsoft to eventually release something more or less
similar to what you briefly caught a glimpse of. Or not.
In
this case, it may be intended as a distraction from the recent bad financial
results from Nokia. Microsoft would have known about Nokia's poor sales well in
advance of the announcement (since they provide the phone software and are a
close partner). In order to try to "bury" that story, they could have decided to
root around in their upcoming product queue to find something to "announce"
that would take attention elsewhere. That would account for the vaporous nature
of the tablet announcement.
Recent Microsoft policy on announcements
was to try to "be more like Apple", and avoid talking about upcoming products
until they are nearly ready for release. The fact that they held a press event
which directly contradicts that policy makes it seem like their hand was forced.
Giving the press something else to talk about is a common PR technique.
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| Authored by: Gringo_ on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 02:00 PM EDT |
As many of us could have predicted,
Microsoft just announced its new Win 8
phone, and the
fact that Nokia's current Lumia phones will not get updated
to
the latest OS. Who will buy a Nokia phone now? ...and
after all the money Nokia
pumped into subsidizing Lumia
sales - all for nothing. The Win 8 phones are not
expected
until October, so that means no revenue for Nokia for at
least 3
months. They are going to be burning cash with no
income. All the layoffs they
announced won't save them in
the short term, because it can cost a lot of money
to
terminate employees. Only in the long term do savings
accrue. I have no
doubt their shares will tank and end up on
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