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Taxable costs?
Authored by: PJ on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 08:49 PM EDT
Plus Google already knows it gets around $200,000 or
so for the third Cockburn report.

: )

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Impunity to the aggressor
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 09:21 PM EDT
Seems the largest costs to Google would be in lawyers fees which i understand
are unrecoverable and would measure in the millions? As such, there is no way
the average person would describe a net gain of $50K of recoverable cost on a
multimillion dollar legal budget as being 'net ahead'.

Yes, i was a legal win for Google and an embarrassing loss for Oracle. But if
the winning side was not a large company with deep pockets, such legal action
would have likely bankrupted them.

So this just highlights the failure of the US legal system which allows
unscrupulous large companies to use the courts to bankrupt small competitors
using nothing but groundless (or near groundless) claims with impunity. It's
extortion.

Where is the justice?

And unfortunately the bigger issue of copyrightable API's was not fully
answered. We only got a 'not in this specific case' style answer, so presumably
using some undefined number of API's more than 37 could lead to infringement.

It's hardly reassuring.

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  • Presumably. - Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 09:39 PM EDT
Taxable costs?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 02:42 AM EDT
I thought Oracle was pursuing Infringer's Profits, rather than statutory
damages.

Did somebody at Oracle realize that the judge could award the princely sum of
one mil as "infringer's profit?

I suspect that Oracle is phrasing its version of the order that way, so that
they can waste more money pursing frivolous lawsuits about alleged infringements
of mathematical algorithms that happen to be non-patents issued by the USPTO.

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Taxable costs?
Authored by: ais523 on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 05:48 PM EDT
Wow; seems Novell spent $124,331.70 on transcripts. It's pretty mindboggling that they aren't available for much cheaper than that, especially as large legal companies presumably buy them in bulk. (Either that, or Novell needed a really mindboggling volume of transcripts, but that would surprise me still more.)

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