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Microsoft "Surface"? Ouch, whatta name
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 01:57 PM EDT
M$ has strong points. Name choice and style are not their
strong points. (Zune??? - in brown???) Rule 1 in product
design is to make your product as different as possible from
anything I might find in a diaper.

--Erwin

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Microsoft "Surface"? Ouch, whatta name
Authored by: DannyB on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 02:24 PM EDT
A Surface tablet, with its funky keyboard, is like a laptop that only works on a
flat surface but not on your lap, or in bed. That's why it is called Surface.

The Metro UI (in Windows RT and Windows 8 and Windows Phone) is to a good UI or
a simple UI as the Surface tablet is to either a real laptop or a real tablet.

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The price of freedom is eternal litigation.

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It's self-deriding n/t
Authored by: cjk fossman on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 02:31 PM EDT
Nothing here. I told you so.

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What about Windows RT, which is not WinRT? n/t
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 02:39 PM EDT
.

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Fox News does not like the Surface
Authored by: Gringo_ on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 03:01 PM EDT

Does the world really need another tablet? asks John R. Quain, of the Personal Tech column at Fox News.

He concludes "Microsoft may need the Surface tablet, but you don't." It is refreshing to see main stream media telling it the way it is for a change, rather than just delivering the PR that Microsoft pays them to print.

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Microsoft "Surface"? Ouch, whatta name
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 04:52 PM EDT
The announcement was remarkably content free, which raises a lot of questions
about why it was made. This is especially the case as it goes against
Microsoft's new policy of not announcing something until it's actually ready.

I strongly suspect that this tablet announcement was made to try to distract
attention from the recent bad news from Nokia. It gives the press something else
to talk about instead of speculating on when Nokia will be declaring bankruptcy.

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Microsoft "Surface"? VaporMg (magnesium) case... not "will it blend", but "will it burn"?
Authored by: mirrorslap on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 05:14 PM EDT
The only reason I would buy one of these "Coasters" (surface) tablets
would be to
see how intensely they burn. Magnesium has a white-hot flame when it burns,
and is the main component of flash powder. I wonder what the FAA will do about
allowing these things in cabins of passenger jets?

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True Microsoft Innovation: Brilliant
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 08:30 PM EDT

Caveat: the exact facts are not necessarily as presented, chemistry properties are an area I have very little experience or knowledge in. As a result, I could be way off having to rely on less-then-reliable internet sources.

Lithium Ion battery thermal runaway can hit 600 degrees celsius.

Magnesium (not necessarily the particular magnesium alloy actually used) ignites at 650 degrees celsius and flashes to 3100 degrees celsius for burn rate.

The average person is unaware of this and has a natural tendency to throw liquid (water, soft drink, whatever is handy) on a fire.

Water on a magnesium fire has - in a sense - explosive capabilities.

Microsoft has just invented a potential new way to not only harm their own customers but anyone that is a little too near.

Of course, others have used magnesium alloys as building materials. But.... I have less faith in MS' ability to build a safe power supply.... not sure why :)

RAS

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Microsoft "Surface"? Ouch, whatta name
Authored by: calris74 on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 10:02 PM EDT
I must say, it does look:
- Functional
- Practical
- Aesthetically pleasing

Hmm, looks ripe for an Apple lawsuit :)

I like the idea of the build in stand (pity about portrait
mode) and the cover-come-keyboard.

I think, like the HP Touchpad, I'll wait until the fire-sale
when it joins the Zune and numerous other MS hardware
gadgets and hack Android onto it. By releasing this 'locked-
down' hardware, they are begging the Cyanogen crew to hack
Android onto it :)

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Microsoft "Surface"? Ouch, whatta name
Authored by: Anonymous on Tuesday, June 19 2012 @ 11:19 PM EDT
The most ingteresting/telling aspect is that it wasn't clear what all the hoopla
is all about.

If Microsoft were smart, they would sell a tablet that does anything an iPad or
Android tablet does but integrates better in the enterprise and is Ok to use.
Businesses would lap it up. Instead they overreach by selling something big (
but after you look at the sizzle there is no substance, it's just another tablet
that comes with a keyboard case which in reality probably isn't as good as many
of the keyboard cases for iPads and Android tablets, sure doesn't look like it
).

THe funny thing is that MS has the killer app for tablets. OneNote is at the
moment far ahead of anything available for the nonMS tablets, though Evernote
has acquired a handwriting recognition company and MobileNote is catching up. If
they just focused their efforts there they could dop extremely well.

I suspect that they are counting on busineses assigning MSTabs to people, but
what will IT do if a person comes back and says, "this thing is a piece of
junk I don't want to use on the train can you make my tablet work with the
system?"

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  • Meh...netbook - Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 01:54 PM EDT
Are they *trying* for an invalid trademark?
Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 12:29 AM EDT
First "Windows", which they've carefully avoided having
tested in court, and now "Surface". What is it with
Microsoft and using generic terms for product names?

I guess it does give them an edge in the "We'd probably lose
in court, but we'll bankrupt you first" department. I'm
rather surprised something like "Lindows" hasn't been based
somewhere in Europe where it could take advantage of the
"loser pays" system.

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Microsoft: We don't need no stinking partners
Authored by: complex_number on Wednesday, June 20 2012 @ 10:02 AM EDT
[www.infoworld.com]

As more and more info is starting to drip (or even leak) out of Redmond I see my initial thoughts about 'Why would MS do this' becoming closer to reality.

MS is giving the non churchillian 'two fingers' to the OEM world and going it alone. In their slavish emulation of Apple they are cutting off the very companies that have made it a success over the years.

This 'MacBook Air killer' device is going to wipe the Ultrabook market stone dead overnight. Well that is what MS would want us to believe.

As PJ has commented to a newspicks item, so far everything they has said , sorry 'spun' is FUD. They are trying two things here

1) To stop people buying an Ultrabook (netbook replacement) until their own 'revolutionary device' is released.
2) To get makers of Ultrabooks to get scared and announce plans to stop making the devices leaving the market open for MS to clean up.

This always assumes that their device is any good in the first place. (sic)

That remains to be seen. I know one thing already. Having tried the Windows 8 previews (and that unmitigated disaster called Server 2012) I will NOT be buying anything with these labels on.

As much as I would like an Android or Linux device to replace my 5yr old MacBook Pro there is nothing out there currently that will do the job. I'm left with a choice. Buy a Windows 7 device or a Apple device.

Unless MS can come up with something that is truly ground breaking and is a total market changer then they are 'Doomed I tell Ye- Doomed'. Balmer should be the first to realize this and will get kicked out.

I will watch this space with interest but personally I won't be buying any MS Stock anytime soon. This is not investment advice as I'm not qualified to do that but I get a distinct feeling that a lot of chairs are going to bit the dust in Redmond before the year is out.

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Ubuntu & 'apt-get' are not the answer to Life, The Universe & Everything which is of course, "42" or is it 1.618?

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